Help!!! D7200 or D610?

rob shearing

Senior Member
I have been tearing my hair out over this!
Four years ago I started with a D3100, two years later came a D5200, now another two years on, I would like to upgrade to either the 7200 or 610. After bombarding myself with written reviews and videos I really can't decide and It's driving me nuts!
I shoot literally everthing, but mostly street portraits (d610?) and football (d7200?). I already have lenses compatible with both DX and FX formats.
Some of the reasons for upgrading are that I find the the viewfinder on the 5200 too small, so quite often I don't see objects that are detrimental to the shot. With our lovely British winters I need some weather protection. On dull days I have to push the ISO higher than I like to get a decent shutter speed for football, resulting in grainy prints!
I've read the whole DX vs FX thing, all the supposed pros and cons, and as for the comment "if you need to ask why you need FX you don't need it." What the hell does that mean?
I'm hoping someone with real world experience of both cameras could put me out of my misery!
I have attached two of my typical photos.
Thanks
Rob
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mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Sorry but if action is your game you need to consider the D500 :D

Do you use a second card in your camera if not what is the D7500 like,i haven't looked into it.

Back to your question the D750 would be be a consideration with me,sorry i cant bring myself to answer between the D7200 and D610 because of your subject interests.

Hopefully some one will give you some real help soon.
 

singlerosa_RIP

Senior Member
I had a D600 (very similar to D610) for a few years and have a D7200, in addition to a 750. Since you have both DX and FX glass, and shoot both sports and regular stuff, I'd suggest the 7200. I think the 7200 offers more than the 610, if you don't mind staying with a cropped sensor. It's newer, has a better sensor, faster focusing, goes up to 1/8000 sec, has Wi-Fi and is about the same price.
 

Bikerbrent

Senior Member
If you want to stay with a DX camera I, and many reviewers and users, believe the D7200 is the best all around DX camera made. If I wanted an FX camera, I would really recommend saving my pennies for a D850.
 

Danno

Senior Member
I have a D7200 that I love for Sports and such, and I bought a used D700 with a low shutter count at a good price. I use the D7200 when I need the reach for birds and my niece's softball games and things like that. I use the D700 for most other things like landscape and low light shots at my church. The 700 is older, but I like the camera a lot.

If I could only have one and I had the budget constraint I would go with the D7200. I have enjoyed mine in low light and sports.
 

TL Robinson

Senior Member
Thanks, that's kind of the route I initially went down, but then I was told to progress I should go FX, but no one can really tell me why!

Depending on what you shoot there really isn't a solid reason why - I hate the whole FX/DX argument in general. In the end a camera is a tool to do a job - you just need to pick the right tool that suits your work in your defined budget. Sometimes that means compromise....

And I agree with above that if action is your thing, you can't go wrong with the D500, but if that's not in the budget, I would look at the D7500 (if a single card isn't an issue for you) or the D7200 as a good compromise.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
Thanks, that's kind of the route I initially went down, but then I was told to progress I should go FX, but no one can really tell me why!
I would tell you to put aside the idea that FX is an upgrade over DX; it's not: it's a lateral move. That being said, if I had to choose between the D7200 and the D600, and only between those two, I'd go with the D7200.

That being said, whether you go with an FX sensor, or a DX sensor, there are going to be times you'll wish you'd taken the other route; it's inevitable.
 

rob shearing

Senior Member
That being said, whether you go with an FX sensor, or a DX sensor, there are going to be times you'll wish you'd taken the other route; it's inevitable.

I think that just about sums it up!
D7200 it is then.
Thank you.
 

Osantacruz

Senior Member
I haven't used these particular cameras but I have a d500 and a d750 (DX and FX) and I honestly almost never use my d750 anymore. I need to sell it soon while it has some value left. I use the d500 a lot more because the focus points aren't all mashed into the center. I don't see any improvement in image quality with FX over DX. I benefit with DX with the extra reach and really only use my d750 if I use my Tamron 15-30. I'd personally go with the d7200

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Fortkentdad

Senior Member
Oh this brings back memories - ... especially the 'tearing my hair out" line.

I was so back and forth when I bought my D610 - should I get the D7100 (7200 was not yet available) or the D610. Weighed the pro's and con's over and over again as I tried to go to sleep - vain efforts that was.

Ultimately I bought the D610 .... later bought the D7100 anyway. Now I also have a D500 .. Yes, bad case of NAS here.

Both are great cameras. And I use both. As your torn out hair shows there is no easy answer.

If it helps, as I stood at the counter with one in each hand my dearly beloved turned to me and said to get the one I wanted without considering the price. Ultimately you will likely spend more on glass than on the camera . . . but generally DX glass can be had for less - but I shoot a lot of FX glass on my DX cameras.

In my case I bought the D610 first ... then later added the D7100.

So my advice - just get them both I did.
 

spb_stan

Senior Member
Sports and low light? D3s used for what a D610 costs. But given your subject matter, and lenses, a used D7200 would be a mighty compelling choice. That would allow your budget to be stretched further for lighting or another lens. Image quality and low noise is a no brainer, the D610 but those are only incremental steps up while the D7200 is a very competent, although not the best, in 100 different traits you could need in a camera. If sports is a primary consideration( it has much more stringent requirements than street or portraiture) speed of AF, and frame rate plus extra reach (well not reach but 1.5 times less field of view with a given lens as if it was a lens with 1.5 times the focal length), the D7200 is the bargain. The D7500 will produce better JPGs and have lower noise but will be more expensive. A used camera is a good choice, the camera as a model has an excellent track record so find one with low shutter count. Used D500 should be popping up not that the D850 is trickling in and being the do all better than anything else camera that could replace the two body combo of D810 and D500 that so many people have adopted. For sports, the best Dx camera on the market is the D500
Street? Any camera produced in the last 5 years is more than enough for very satisfying images where the quality is more determined by non-camera traits, like composition, lighting, subject and lens speed(aperture). A used $200 D90 is good enough for very good street photography. In fact it is good enough for serious studio portraiture, as is the D7200.
The saying "if you don't know whether you should move to Fx, you shouldn't"or something like that, is realistic. Fx entails some costs, like weight, more expensive lenses, slower speed(unless D3, 4, 5 or D850) and bigger files. You would shoot less with Fx so unless there is a compelling reason to shift to Fx, there is no reason to. You will not see the difference in a normal print from a good Dx and a Fx. If you are printing large and viewing close, sure Fx makes sense. If doing landscapes, and printing high quality large prints, Fx has some advantages because wide angle lenses are very wide.
Nothing you stated suggests you have the compelling reason to shift to Fx.
So in order of decreasing advantage:
D500...used to save budget
D7200(new or used)
D7500(better for images in difficult conditions because it uses the imaging system of the D500 but can't be found used yet)
 

atleo

Senior Member
Personally I enjoy a full frame sensor. I use a 7100 for work and previously owned a 600. I found myself able to get better pics from the 600 almost all the time. This is admittedly due to having g a higher quality lens for it at the time.

But that was sort of the mental game I played. For whatever reason I felt compelled to use higher quality lenses on the FX format camera and as a result got better pics.

I suppose in writing that all I've done is tell you that with good lenses they're both great.

But that's my experience. All the best!


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