Does changing focal length effect my focus?

Myrzwyt

New member
I have a nikkor 16-35mm and i shoot mostly astro
Normally during the daytime i go outside and focus on the furthest object away and i get the right focus. I've been shooting just in 16mm, but what if i want to change it to 24mm to make the milky appear larger, will i then have to refocus for 24mm?
 

Osantacruz

Senior Member
I have a nikkor 16-35mm and i shoot mostly astro
Normally during the daytime i go outside and focus on the furthest object away and i get the right focus. I've been shooting just in 16mm, but what if i want to change it to 24mm to make the milky appear larger, will i then have to refocus for 24mm?
Yes. Only parfocal lenses don't require refocusing as far as I know and those are pretty specialized lenses

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Chances are at that extreme distance the focus will not change anyway since you will be at infinity anyway.. Just remember that infinity is not at the far end of the focus since modern auto focus lenses go past the infinity mark
 

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
One other thing mentioned is aperture and its impact on depth of field. When you zoom in the depth of field narrows, so depending on your distance to subject that subject may go out of focus because your DoF has been reduced.

That said, if you look at hyperfocal distances on your lens, at 16mm & f4 you get everything from just over 5ft to Infinity in focus. At 35mm & f4 you get everything from 20ft to Infinity in focus. So, for astrophotography, if your focus is set to anything over 20ft then theoretically you can zoom in and out across the entire focal length without refocusing. My recommendation would be to test that out on a nice day with high clouds and some tree tops in view, and maybe a moon in the daytime sky. Set the focus to somewhere between 20ft and infinity (make sure it's set to manual), and shoot a series of pix at various focal lengths all at f4 (you want to shoot wide open for astrophography). Load 'em onto your computer and pixel peep to your heart's content.
 

Bob Blaylock

Senior Member
Yes. Only parfocal lenses don't require refocusing as far as I know and those are pretty specialized lenses

I was thinking that something I learned long ago was that the definition of a zoom lens included the characteristic of holding its focus as you changed the focal length, that a lens that did not have this trait was a “varifocal lens” as opposed to a true zoom lens.

A quick look at the Wikipedia reveals that I was correct, but that most consumer-grade “zoom lenses” are really varifocal lenses, which means that you are also correct.

A true zoom lens, also called a parfocal lens, is one that maintains focus when its focal length changes. A lens that loses focus during zooming is more properly called a varifocal lens. Despite being marketed as zoom lenses, virtually all consumer lenses with variable focal lengths use varifocal design.
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Whereas lenses used in cinematography and video applications are required to maintain focus while the focal length is changed, there is no such requirement for still photography and for zoom lenses used as projection lenses. Since it is harder to construct a lens that does not change focus with the same image quality as one that does, the latter applications often use lenses that require refocusing once the focal length has changed (and thus strictly speaking are varifocal lenses, not zoom lenses). As most modern still cameras are autofocusing, this is not a problem.

That last sentence caught me, given my frequent use of an ancient late-1960s or early 1970s Vivitar 85-205mm ƒ/3.8 zoom lens, which I've always assumed met the definition of a true zoom lens in that it didn't need refocusing at different focal lengths. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it did not, when I shot this sequence to demonstrate its characteristics. No autofocus there to help me. I am quite sure that I never refocused during the entire course of that sequence, which includes these two pictures taken at 85mm and 205mm with the aperture wide open at ƒ/3.8.
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Osantacruz

Senior Member
I was thinking that something I learned long ago was that the definition of a zoom lens included the characteristic of holding its focus as you changed the focal length, that a lens that did not have this trait was a “varifocal lens” as opposed to a true zoom lens.

A quick look at the Wikipedia reveals that I was correct, but that most consumer-grade “zoom lenses” are really varifocal lenses, which means that you are also correct.

A true zoom lens, also called a parfocal lens, is one that maintains focus when its focal length changes. A lens that loses focus during zooming is more properly called a varifocal lens. Despite being marketed as zoom lenses, virtually all consumer lenses with variable focal lengths use varifocal design.
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Whereas lenses used in cinematography and video applications are required to maintain focus while the focal length is changed, there is no such requirement for still photography and for zoom lenses used as projection lenses. Since it is harder to construct a lens that does not change focus with the same image quality as one that does, the latter applications often use lenses that require refocusing once the focal length has changed (and thus strictly speaking are varifocal lenses, not zoom lenses). As most modern still cameras are autofocusing, this is not a problem.

That last sentence caught me, given my frequent use of an ancient late-1960s or early 1970s Vivitar 85-205mm ƒ/3.8 zoom lens, which I've always assumed met the definition of a true zoom lens in that it didn't need refocusing at different focal lengths. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it did not, when I shot this sequence to demonstrate its characteristics. No autofocus there to help me. I am quite sure that I never refocused during the entire course of that sequence, which includes these two pictures taken at 85mm and 205mm with the aperture wide open at ƒ/3.8.
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I only learned about this a few months ago. I like watching any and all camera equipment reviews on YouTube, even for stuff I'll never buy or systems I'll never own. The concept was discussed when watching reviews for some Fuji cine lens. Useless but neat information for distributing around forums I guess :)

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