New to DSLR cameras need some help and advice plz

deaz17

New member
Hi i am new to the world of DSLR cameras i have a Nikon D3300 i need help getting the blur background effect i have watched some tutorials on how to do so and haven't had any luck getting it to work i need some advice and help please.

I am using lens 18-55mm im using aperture priority mode focus mode AF-S using aperture F 3.5 and have tried different apertures and cant get the effect.


Thanks
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Welcome to the forum.

Ime not good at writing tutorials so you could try googleing understanding DOF (depth of field) until some one else comes along
 

aroy

Senior Member
Hi i am new to the world of DSLR cameras i have a Nikon D3300 i need help getting the blur background effect i have watched some tutorials on how to do so and haven't had any luck getting it to work i need some advice and help please.

I am using lens 18-55mm im using aperture priority mode focus mode AF-S using aperture F 3.5 and have tried different apertures and cant get the effect.


Thanks

Welcome.

For that blurred background you need wider aperture - F1.4 to F2.8. The kit lens goes only to F3.5 at the wide end, so it will not do. Look up images on the 35mm F1.8DX lens threads. Here are a few threads which give you examples of the lens at F1.8
http://nikonites.com/prime/21560-af-s-nikkor-35mm-1-8g-dx-post284873.html#post284873
http://nikonites.com/prime/21560-af-s-nikkor-35mm-1-8g-dx-post284955.html#post284955
http://nikonites.com/prime/21560-af-s-nikkor-35mm-1-8g-dx-post285298.html#post285298
http://nikonites.com/prime/21560-af-s-nikkor-35mm-1-8g-dx-post286440.html#post286440

You may also search for images with 50mm F1.4 and 85mm F1.4 for even better background isolation.
 

J-see

Senior Member
You can get background blur with the kit lens but it won't be much and it depends on some factors. Once you focus closer on something while still showing background, it automatically starts to blur. Just make sure whatever is behind your subject is far enough behind it.

This is one of the first shots I took with the D3300 and kit lens. It's not a great shot but it shows even at f9, the background blurs. If I'd had opened more, that would have increased.

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Bob Blaylock

Senior Member
Hi i am new to the world of DSLR cameras i have a Nikon D3300 i need help getting the blur background effect i have watched some tutorials on how to do so and haven't had any luck getting it to work i need some advice and help please.

I am using lens 18-55mm im using aperture priority mode focus mode AF-S using aperture F 3.5 and have tried different apertures and cant get the effect.

As others have pointed out, the concept you need to understand is depth of field. You want the subject to be in focus, but background to be out of focus, so you want as shallow a depth of field as you can get.

Depth of field generally depends on these variables:

  • The focal length of the lens. The longer the focal length, the shallower the depth of field.
  • The aperture setting. The wider the aperture (the lower the ƒ number) the shallower the depth of field.
  • The distance to the subject. The closer you are to your subject, the shallower the depth of field.

The 18-55mm that you have isn't really the best lens for this, but it is usable. You'll want to achieve a balance of having the lens zoomed to as long a focal length together with getting as close as you can to the subject, while still getting the subject to fit in the frame. And of course, have the aperture all the way open.

I've posted a couple of threads around experiments that I have done with a couple of my old lenses, using different aperture settings at the same distance from the same scene, to illustrate the effect of aperture on depth of field and general sharpness. You might find it useful to look at these two threads and try to understand what I was doing there:

 

Bob Blaylock

Senior Member
You can get background blur with the kit lens but it won't be much and it depends on some factors. Once you focus closer on something while still showing background, it automatically starts to blur. Just make sure whatever is behind your subject is far enough behind it.

This is one of the first shots I took with the D3300 and kit lens. It's not a great shot but it shows even at f9, the background blurs. If I'd had opened more, that would have increased.

Having a small subject helps. I took these, just now, with the stock 18-55 on my D3200, with the lens zoomed to each extreme of focal length, and at the widest aperture setting for each focal length.

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J-see

Senior Member
Having a small subject helps. I took these, just now, with the stock 18-55 on my D3200, with the lens zoomed to each extreme of focal length, and at the widest aperture setting for each focal length.

While having had great fun with my kit during the first month, I fear now all it does is gather dust. It should indeed be possible to create background blur regardless the focal length or even aperture. There's always a limited DOF. All he has to do is position the subject-background correctly. A person one foot in front of a wall won't lead to the desired effect but that same person having a wider space behind him and eventually some far background objects would do the trick.
 

ChrisJ

New member
Hi your kit lens isn't ideal for the blur effect (bokeh) but keep it on F3.5, which is the widest open it can go giving the best depth of field it is able to give and then move as CLOSE to your subject as possible. The camera will tell you if you are too close by not being able to focus any more. That should give you the best result you equipment is able to produce.

I hope it helps.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
Generally speaking you'll get a nicely blurred background (bokeh) when the distance from your subject to the background is ten times the distance from you to the subject.

For instance: If you are 1 meter in front of your subject, you want the background 10 meters behind your subject.

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