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    Re: Soooooo?

    @Horoscope Fish

    Thanks. I have a couple other images with just a couple dancers, but non of these images are great. Luckily, I didn't tell anybody I was giving them images.


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      Re: Soooooo?

      This is a good example of not being able to win in any case....too many things making the subject hard to capture....distracting bright background too close to the subjects, no vantage point where the dancers could be seen from where they are in good alignment for a group shot, and a very unflattering pose that suggests everyone is a member of the 3 month Pregnant Club.
      I probably would have stopped down and trying to capture one of them in good focus, single spot focus, f/2.8, fast shutter and iso 100 and let the others blur into the background.
      I shoot a lot of top flight ballet (I am allowed a permit for the D7000 but not for my D800 due to shutter noise) and shoot from the first or second balcony or right in front of the orchestra pit as lot as possible. Even knowing the exact movements and having the most precision corps dancers anywhere, getting great shots of groups in movement is a hit or miss situation. Focusing on soloists, no problem, high rate of keepers. But toss in amateurs who could only rehearse a few times, and having no dance training, it is a matter of sheer luck to get keepers where none of them look awkward or blocking a view of others or with a optimum expression.
      A tough subject to get right since there are no rights with people doing just for fun in staging that is less than ideal....a lot less than ideal.
      As a general rule, f/7.1 at that distance, all should have been in good focus or at least in the same focus, but they are not, clearly the AF latched onto the background because it has good focusing targets...sharp contrast edges. AF likes such targets. Keep it simple, single point AF-S Find a suitable target, and if someone in the troop is looking goofy, you have enough pixels to crop to the single subject you were focusing on.
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      Re: Soooooo?

      A radical plan if you have photoshop might be to , erase the far right lady who seems to have a bucket on her head , and the lights below, then use the distort to straighten away the edge of the stage , then use lighting effects- render feature , to either spotlight all the remaining individuals , or preferentially, so it looks perhaps like a performance indoors or at night.
      These older ladies appear to be having fun , but they might appreciate if you helped em with the muffin tops, none of us are perfect and they airbrush young models too, so its no disrespect.

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      Re: Soooooo?

      To your question, post processing, it looks good. The only thing I might have tried is to push the whites in the panels a little whiter, but it looks like it was an overcast day.
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      Re: Soooooo?

      Quote Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
      To your question, post processing, it looks good. The only thing I might have tried is to push the whites in the panels a little whiter, but it looks like it was an overcast day.
      Thanks. I played around with the whites. I will look to see what I did with them.
      You are right. It was raining that day.
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      "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


      Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
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      Re: Soooooo?

      Quote Originally Posted by Stoshowicz View Post
      A radical plan if you have photoshop might be to , erase the far right lady who seems to have a bucket on her head , and the lights below, then use the distort to straighten away the edge of the stage , then use lighting effects- render feature , to either spotlight all the remaining individuals , or preferentially, so it looks perhaps like a performance indoors or at night.
      These older ladies appear to be having fun , but they might appreciate if you helped em with the muffin tops, none of us are perfect and they airbrush young models too, so its no disrespect.
      Good suggestions. I didn't even notice the bucket effect. Doh. I might play around with some creative effects. Maybe I can create a keeper or two. Mayyybeeee.
      Honestly, I don't think they care about their muffin tops, and yeah, one gal in particular was smiling the entire show.
      Last edited by Dawg Pics; 11-24-2017 at 09:35 AM.
      "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


      Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
      D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, D100 R.I.P., SB-800

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      Re: Soooooo?

      @spb_stan
      Yeah, I realized I would be lucky to have a keeper. I learned a lot just by trying, so I don't consider the effort a lost cause.
      There were even more obstacles than all the ones you stated. I was in the mud, there were tables, my buddy had a live-feed going, there were two other photographers, etc. I had to sneak in and grab shots kind of from the side so I wouldn't block anybody because I didn't have my long lens. I didn't check my camera settings (oops).

      The images aren't important. If I have a keeper or two, great, if not, then it was just a learning experience.

      If I am in this situation again, I will try to remember your suggestion about narrowing the DOF. I did try to get some individuals, but I don't know if they are keepers. Thought I would try for a longer artsy exposure, but I just gave up and watched the rest of the show instead.
      "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


      Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
      D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, D100 R.I.P., SB-800





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