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Horoscope Fish
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Tell us a little about the shot. What about this scene made you think, "I want to photograph this"?
So for me, looking at the settings, you could have got away with being at ISO of 100 or 200 by dropping the shutter speed down, being at 80mm you could have been a lot lower in shutter speed while still capturing the moment.
On the framing side not knowing what lens you were shooting with im going to guess its a kit lens (18-105?) I would have gone a little tighter, taken the girl on the right out she adds no interest to the image and is a distraction as she is walking away from you, drop down a little so you are shooting at waist level and frame it so you have the girl, the pole and the flags in the frame
Just my opinion
On the framing side not knowing what lens you were shooting with im going to guess its a kit lens (18-105?) I would have gone a little tighter, taken the girl on the right out she adds no interest to the image and is a distraction as she is walking away from you, drop down a little so you are shooting at waist level and frame it so you have the girl, the pole and the flags in the frame
Just my opinion
Horoscope Fish
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To my eye, aesthetically, it looks like a snapshot of two people on a public street; mainly because I'm not getting a sense of a specific subject.
Welcome ryan1230 and credit to you to throw yourself out there for critique - hard to do unless a person really wants to learn.
Here's my two cents.
Ditto what Daz said. ISO didn't need to be that high and neither did the shutter speed. You want a shutter speed to be no faster than what you need so that your ISO can stay lower which helps to keep ISO noise down in the photo. Of course in full bright light you'll need a higher shutter speed because too much light will be let in at the lowest shutter speed possible. So I guess I should say, when in less than ideal lighting you want to keep that shutter speed as low as you can to reduce ISO noise. This is an oversimplification, to really understand it all you need a good understanding of the "exposure triangle."
Ditto Daz and Fish on the why of this photo. It's just not obvious. When you take a picture, and it comes in time and with practice, a photo is something you build. Why is it there? I took liberty with your photo and did an edit from a low resolution screen shot.
1. I cropped out all the extraneous crud that really does nothing to tell the story, student campus life. Beyond being extraneous it is distracting.
2. What is my story? SHE is my story. With this cropping she is prominently featured and on a point of interest. (study "rule of thirds")
3. The light pole and building in the background gives me a sense of where she is. The flags in the background really solidifies a location. When I did my edit I gave the flags a touch more punch to make them stand out. A viewers eyes tend to travel to eyes, bright points, and strong colors. She is located on a vertical third line with her eye on the intersection (off a little bit due to the framing I added). My intention is that people will look to her eyes, we are drawn to eyes, and then to the yellow flag. I see her and I recognize where she is - a college campus.
4. Know the rules to know when to break the rules. Placed on the right third line she is leaving the photo. We don't generally have people leaving a photo. So why did I do it? I did this to lead you to the point she has somewhere to go. She is on the move.
If this were more of a portrait, street portrait, I would have shot with a shallower depth of field, but you wanted people to be aware of where she is to tell a story so the deeper depth of field works.
Know that not everyone will view a photo the same, but as the photographer you should know why you did what. A photograph is built and it comes with practice. I encourage you to keep shooting shooting shooting.
And welcome again.
Here's my two cents.
Ditto what Daz said. ISO didn't need to be that high and neither did the shutter speed. You want a shutter speed to be no faster than what you need so that your ISO can stay lower which helps to keep ISO noise down in the photo. Of course in full bright light you'll need a higher shutter speed because too much light will be let in at the lowest shutter speed possible. So I guess I should say, when in less than ideal lighting you want to keep that shutter speed as low as you can to reduce ISO noise. This is an oversimplification, to really understand it all you need a good understanding of the "exposure triangle."
Ditto Daz and Fish on the why of this photo. It's just not obvious. When you take a picture, and it comes in time and with practice, a photo is something you build. Why is it there? I took liberty with your photo and did an edit from a low resolution screen shot.
1. I cropped out all the extraneous crud that really does nothing to tell the story, student campus life. Beyond being extraneous it is distracting.
2. What is my story? SHE is my story. With this cropping she is prominently featured and on a point of interest. (study "rule of thirds")
3. The light pole and building in the background gives me a sense of where she is. The flags in the background really solidifies a location. When I did my edit I gave the flags a touch more punch to make them stand out. A viewers eyes tend to travel to eyes, bright points, and strong colors. She is located on a vertical third line with her eye on the intersection (off a little bit due to the framing I added). My intention is that people will look to her eyes, we are drawn to eyes, and then to the yellow flag. I see her and I recognize where she is - a college campus.
4. Know the rules to know when to break the rules. Placed on the right third line she is leaving the photo. We don't generally have people leaving a photo. So why did I do it? I did this to lead you to the point she has somewhere to go. She is on the move.
If this were more of a portrait, street portrait, I would have shot with a shallower depth of field, but you wanted people to be aware of where she is to tell a story so the deeper depth of field works.
Know that not everyone will view a photo the same, but as the photographer you should know why you did what. A photograph is built and it comes with practice. I encourage you to keep shooting shooting shooting.
And welcome again.
[MENTION=11881]Moab Man[/MENTION] Thank you very much for the insight and the edit. I don't know why I had such a high shutter speed, which then resulted in a high ISO to compensate. Perhaps I should have camped in aperture priority, but I want to learn manual and there is no better way than practice. I stuck it at f5.6 because the 18-140 kit lens is variable 3.5-5.6. This allowed me to keep the light consistent, regardless of the zoom. I hope on picking up a 35 or 55 f1.8 soon.
Don't be discouraged, we have all made mistakes and sometimes really stupid ones when we are experienced enough to know better. My stupid experience was on the Bonneville Salt Flats where people run their cars to set land speed records. But I have to go back in time to the night before when I was photographing the Milky Way. I had cranked up the ISO to 3200. Jump back to the next day. As I'm shooting on the very bright salt flats I kept blowing out photos. I knew it was bright, but not this bright. Eventually I end up at 1/8000 of a second and am totally confused why I'm having to shoot so fast. Then it hits me, DOH! Stupid brain, stupid brain... It taught me a very valuable lesson, CHECK YOUR SH$% BEFORE YOU START!
Anyway, keep at it and know that there are plenty of goofy mistakes ahead. I also have a theory that every new camera comes preloaded with a few thousand bad photos before you get to the good stuff.
Anyway, keep at it and know that there are plenty of goofy mistakes ahead. I also have a theory that every new camera comes preloaded with a few thousand bad photos before you get to the good stuff.
That was the type of photo I had when I was looking at it too !!