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    Re: Still Life critique, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
    Too cluttered and busy for me. I'm not sure what the point is. When I say that, I don't mean it out of sarcasm, I mean what am I supposed to be drawn into? Which goes back to being too busy.
    "Cluttered" seems to be the common criticism here, so I'd better take it to heart. Thanks a lot for extending the advice, I really appreciate it. I'm glad I posted this here, as I'm really learning something.


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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            "The Slanted Lens" has a lot of videos on how to best light glass and other hard to light objects on youtube. Here are a couple:

                            https://youtu.be/M9NlA7yzFrw

                            https://youtu.be/FPfH3M--224
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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Quote Originally Posted by Andy W View Post
                            "The Slanted Lens" has a lot of videos on how to best light glass and other hard to light objects on youtube. Here are a couple:

                            https://youtu.be/M9NlA7yzFrw

                            https://youtu.be/FPfH3M--224
                            Fantastic! Thanks so much for pointing me to them, Andy!
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                            I think the overall concept is good. Agree with clutter comment. Stem in foreground bad and the foreground is to sharp. I would have used F4 and put a little separation between foreground and the subject. It's important to make sure the viewer knowns what the subject is. Some recommended poured wine in a wine glass, sure, but if you have many bottles to shoot, some interesting, non traditional shots may be appreciated. Imagine their whole catalog, they'll want some variety. Perhaps a traditional shot and a more creative one for each bottle. Then the client can decide. Ultimately, we don't matter, your client is the boss so you should try to provide according to their taste. Good effort!
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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Quote Originally Posted by Dangerspouse View Post
                            "Cluttered" seems to be the common criticism here, so I'd better take it to heart. Thanks a lot for extending the advice, I really appreciate it. I'm glad I posted this here, as I'm really learning something.
                            This is a great forum for learning and real learning critiques.
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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Quote Originally Posted by Chris@sabor View Post
                            I think the overall concept is good. Agree with clutter comment. Stem in foreground bad and the foreground is to sharp. I would have used F4 and put a little separation between foreground and the subject. It's important to make sure the viewer knowns what the subject is. Some recommended poured wine in a wine glass, sure, but if you have many bottles to shoot, some interesting, non traditional shots may be appreciated. Imagine their whole catalog, they'll want some variety. Perhaps a traditional shot and a more creative one for each bottle. Then the client can decide. Ultimately, we don't matter, your client is the boss so you should try to provide according to their taste. Good effort!
                            Lol. Seems we have a consensus: TOO CLUTTERED! Got it. Point taken

                            Hey Chris, thanks very much for adding suggestions for how I could make this shot better. It all sounds like excellent advice, particularly the overall admonition to keep their entire category in mind. You're right: the client is indeed the ultimate arbiter, and I gotta go with what they request over other - perhaps technically "better" - advice from anyone else, fellow photographers included. That's the way it is in my RL job, so I'm quite used to holding my tongue and following orders like a good soldier.

                            Anyway, even if it's just for my own edification I'm going to put some of your suggestions to the test (once I buy more ingredients, *buuuurp*) and see how they turn out. Thanks again!

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                            You're right: the client is indeed the ultimate arbiter, and I gotta go with what they request over other - perhaps technically "better" - advice from anyone else, fellow photographers included.
                            LOL, it can be the worse photo, but if it's what the client wants it's what they get.

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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Quote Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
                            LOL, it can be the worse photo, but if it's what the client wants it's what they get.

                            BTW, I like you nickname Dangerspouse.
                            Haha, thanks! My wife started calling me that years ago, after the cartoon. I can't say I was displeased

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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Since you're selling wine, the bottle and label deserve more space in your composition. Shiny things (cheese knife) distracts and shapes that stick out (pepper stem) also attracts the eyes and distract from the bottle.

                            Lear how to use lightroom in order to be able to create shadows around the bottle and control out of focus areas. Since you say in your profile that you don't mind someone editing your images, I took a bit of my time to show you how this could be improved with a bit of post processing. It's no close to perfect, but seeing less lets me concentrate a bit more on the bottle. If you do mind my edit, let me know and I'll delete it without any problem.
                            Still Life critique, please.-zin-still-life-2-2.jpg
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                            Re: Still Life critique, please.

                            Still Life critique, please.
                            Quote Originally Posted by Marcel View Post
                            Since you're selling wine, the bottle and label deserve more space in your composition. Shiny things (cheese knife) distracts and shapes that stick out (pepper stem) also attracts the eyes and distract from the bottle.

                            Lear how to use lightroom in order to be able to create shadows around the bottle and control out of focus areas. Since you say in your profile that you don't mind someone editing your images, I took a bit of my time to show you how this could be improved with a bit of post processing. It's no close to perfect, but seeing less lets me concentrate a bit more on the bottle. If you do mind my edit, let me know and I'll delete it without any problem.
                            I don't mind at all. Quite the contrary, thank you very much for the advice and for taking the time to give me an exellent edit example. I see what you mean about processing to make the bottle more front and center as the point of attention. I appreciate it very much!!

                            Funny, I came here just now to post an edit to the picture of my own to see if anyone thought I was on the right track. This is just a simple crop of the first picture:

                            Still Life critique, please.-dfw-still-life-crop.jpg

                            I think it looks like yours, but just a bit more crop.

                            Lol. "Learn how to use Lightroom" is all well and good, and I am indeed trying to, but you're looking at a guy who doesn't use a computer for anything other than the most basic "watch puppy videos and post on forums" tasks. I mean, I don't even have a cell phone. So trying to leap from "Minesweeper" to "Layers", "Presets" and "Tone Curves" in one fell swoop feels like I'm trying to decipher the German Enigma code while blindfolded. It doesn't help that my 12 year old computer apparently isn't up to the task, and in the week since I've had Lightroom installed it's crashed more often than a drunk Group-B rally driver.

                            But I'm determined to get it. And hopefully I will....before they fire me

                            Thanks again - really!

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