nikonpup
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Nikon move
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My D70 was made in Thailand and it still works
https://nikonrumors.com/2020/12/20/...g-moving-to-thailand-by-the-end-of-2021.aspx/
https://nikonrumors.com/2020/12/20/...g-moving-to-thailand-by-the-end-of-2021.aspx/
Bikerbrent
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At least Thailand is better than if they moved to China! Chinese products are far too many times a laughably bad piece of junk, kind of like Japan goods were in the 50's. Plus look at what China did with their pet food and lets not forget the pandemic started in China!
john*thomas
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Stabbed the people who made Nikon what it is, in the back.
Same with my d7100.
Fred Kingston
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There's most likely some culture shock in the fact that Nikon, the epitome of Japanese quality and precision is acknowledging that their workers have crossed the line and place money over their national spirit... Of course, we're assuming the move is prompted by a demand for higher wages, and NOT a demand for higher taxes from the surrounding factory area... I'd be interested in hearing what exactly the costs were/are that motivate the decision...but I'm sure Nikon won't divulge the details any time soon.
Certainly the new eBay tag going forward on used/pristine Nikon gear will be the applicable, "Made in Japan" as a declaration of perceived quality...along with moderate price increases.
Certainly the new eBay tag going forward on used/pristine Nikon gear will be the applicable, "Made in Japan" as a declaration of perceived quality...along with moderate price increases.
Comments here indicates few recent camera were being made in japan. It indicates only the D6, D5 and Df were being made in Japan, dated 6/2020.
https://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/nikon/about-nikon/nikon-faq/where-are-nikon-cameras-and.html
https://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/nikon/about-nikon/nikon-faq/where-are-nikon-cameras-and.html
Almost all products are assembled of parts and assemblies from all over the world. When a camera as good and well made as my D850 was assembled in Thailand, from parts and subassemblies mostly from Japan but also many parts from China, the sources are chosen based on production capabilities. The most complex and critical assembies such as the main pc board are probably automated assembled in China because China now has the most capable automation systems nowadays. All the pc board for iPhones are Chinese robot assembled which is far better than humans can do in precision and accuracy. In a lot of ways Japan has fallen behind China in automation and engineering talent. Thailand is raising as a quality final assembly point. Those believing these Asian countries are poor assemblers are living 30 years behind. China has greatly developed it engineering status, graduating 50 times as many engineers yearly than the second place USA, and it patents 7 times more inventions than the US. Automation, supercomputing, quantum computing, aeronautic engineering, biology, materials etc.
If it was not for this range of talent we would not have the great technology at affordable prices. Even products assembled in the US are usually made up of parts from other countries, such and the only car manufacturer to day in the US that is a high degree of US made parts are Tesla.All the others are majority foreign parts and assemblies. ALL manufacturing is international. If you have been to China recently you know it is amazing how modern and high tech their cities are. Nothing in the west compares. When people complain about cheap Chinese products they are actually describing the cost cutting attempts by the contracting customer who spec'd the very cheapest construction, not the capabilities of the assembly plant in China, Vietnam or Thailand. In Nikon's case they built their own factory there, and their equipment and jigs were designed by Nikon, and the assembly workers are Nikon employees. The pc boards are probably made in China because they are the masters in multilayer boards at affordable prices. Robotics is the key, these boards are too small in feature size for reliable human assembly. The leader in robotics for production has been China for 15 years. The US and Japan have an edge in mobile robotics for specialized applications like security robots.
You have a very reliable sturdy camera in the Z series BECAUSE it is made in Thailand and its boards are made in China. The fewer human hands involved the better. The Z cameras are likely the most reliable and sturdy cameras Nikon has ever made, and probably among the most reliable cameras regardless of brand. The weak flimsy construction of Sony a7 series cameras are not weak due to the assembly but due to the cost cutting mandate given to the engineers by marketing and financial departments in Sony. If more rugged cameras were desired even their engineers could have designed them to be more rugged and incorporate weather sealing. The Z cameras are rugged because they were designed to be.
If it was not for this range of talent we would not have the great technology at affordable prices. Even products assembled in the US are usually made up of parts from other countries, such and the only car manufacturer to day in the US that is a high degree of US made parts are Tesla.All the others are majority foreign parts and assemblies. ALL manufacturing is international. If you have been to China recently you know it is amazing how modern and high tech their cities are. Nothing in the west compares. When people complain about cheap Chinese products they are actually describing the cost cutting attempts by the contracting customer who spec'd the very cheapest construction, not the capabilities of the assembly plant in China, Vietnam or Thailand. In Nikon's case they built their own factory there, and their equipment and jigs were designed by Nikon, and the assembly workers are Nikon employees. The pc boards are probably made in China because they are the masters in multilayer boards at affordable prices. Robotics is the key, these boards are too small in feature size for reliable human assembly. The leader in robotics for production has been China for 15 years. The US and Japan have an edge in mobile robotics for specialized applications like security robots.
You have a very reliable sturdy camera in the Z series BECAUSE it is made in Thailand and its boards are made in China. The fewer human hands involved the better. The Z cameras are likely the most reliable and sturdy cameras Nikon has ever made, and probably among the most reliable cameras regardless of brand. The weak flimsy construction of Sony a7 series cameras are not weak due to the assembly but due to the cost cutting mandate given to the engineers by marketing and financial departments in Sony. If more rugged cameras were desired even their engineers could have designed them to be more rugged and incorporate weather sealing. The Z cameras are rugged because they were designed to be.