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    What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    I've an acquaintance who just added the D850 to his arsenal, and frequently pairs it with the Sigma Sport 500mm lens. What he is getting out of the combo is stunning. Now, I feel compelled to get either the camera, or a 500mm lens. With the current setup, he is seriously cropping the images he gets, so I'm inclined to go after the lens first. So, my dilemma is which lens to purchase; the Sigma Sport, the Nikon 500 f/4 (used), or the Nikon 200-500.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)
    In my view, this is a solid review of the 200-500 vs the 500 that may help you decide. Having bought a 200-500 just a week ago, I also looked at lots of YouTube assessments and other online comparisons of the 200-500 vs the Sigma 150-600 Sports and got the impression that the 200-500 is still better, albeit by a hair. Ultimately, unless you have specific shooting preferences one of these meets better than the others, IMHO this comes down to price and weight, with IQ differences being small.

    One things seems clear: none of these three is a poor choice.
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    @BackdoorHippie has the Sigma Sport 150mm-600mm. Look through some of his posts about his Nikon 300mm f/4 PF coupled with a teleconverter. Maybe that combo will be another option for you to consider. Hey...I like to spend other people's money!
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    Quote Originally Posted by lokatz View Post
    ...IMHO this comes down to price and weight, with IQ differences being small.

    One things seems clear: none of these three is a poor choice.
    If that is the case, then the Nikon 200-500 is the choice to make. Which is what I've told myself, but... sometimes I think I'm lying to myself.

    And I do have the 300 f/2.8 and 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters. I just haven't been pleased with them on the 300mm. Maybe instead of a lens purchase, I need to send the lens to Nikon for a checkup and tuneup. That plus the D850 are still less than two of the three lenses by about $1000.

    WM

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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyman View Post
    If that is the case, then the Nikon 200-500 is the choice to make. Which is what I've told myself, but... sometimes I think I'm lying to myself.

    And I do have the 300 f/2.8 and 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters. I just haven't been pleased with them on the 300mm. Maybe instead of a lens purchase, I need to send the lens to Nikon for a checkup and tuneup. That plus the D850 are still less than two of the three lenses by about $1000.

    WM

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    Which brand teleconverters do you use? Nikon or Kenko? I use the Nikon 1.4x on my 300mm f/4 (non-VR), and the combo is stellar. In any case, between those 2 lenses, if it were my choice, I'd go with the Nikon.
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Which brand teleconverters do you use? Nikon or Kenko? I use the Nikon 1.4x on my 300mm f/4 (non-VR), and the combo is stellar. In any case, between those 2 lenses, if it were my choice, I'd go with the Nikon.
    Both of my TCs are Nikon. I guess that I'm a brand snob, but early on I got burned with third-party gear, and I guess I still rub the scars from that encounter from time to time. Some of the Sigma lenses are getting such good marks that I will consider third-party gear these days.

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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyman View Post
    Both of my TCs are Nikon. I guess that I'm a brand snob, but early on I got burned with third-party gear, and I guess I still rub the scars from that encounter from time to time. Some of the Sigma lenses are getting such good marks that I will consider third-party gear these days.

    WM
    This is my take on this. Either get the Nikon 200-500mm 0r the Siggy sport 150-600 and use either one with the D500 that you already own. I wouldn't even consider the D850 for birding unless I also needed something for landscapes as well, which my D750 already covers (and quite nicely at that).
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    Quote Originally Posted by Blacktop View Post
    This is my take on this. Either get the Nikon 200-500mm 0r the Siggy sport 150-600 and use either one with the D500 that you already own. I wouldn't even consider the D850 for birding unless I also needed something for landscapes as well, which my D750 already covers (and quite nicely at that).
    I thought the same thing about my D750, and I still love it. However, I've seen firsthand what he gets with his D850 over what he got with his D750, and I have to say that it is a totally new realm with the D850.

    WM
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    I'd like to see the shots where the 850 is in a different realm than the 750.
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    Re: What I Don't Need (But Want Really Badly)

    If the D850 is a realm beyond the D750, my wallet is going to be in trouble. I think Iím good to put many more years on the D810 before I replace it, and have the D500 for the crop factor when I need it.


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