RIP Muhammad Ali............

STM

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"I ain't a scared a you Joe Frazah........" PAI-YOW Did someone get the plate of that truck that just ran over me"

I loved watching Ali fight and he was a tremendous boxer but sometimes his mouth wrote a check his gloves could not cash. Joe Frazier whipped his butt in that match back on March 8, 1971, even if it did go 15 rounds. It may have been billed as the Fight of the Century, but it was definitely not one. Ali was on his heels almost right from the start.
 

olegeiser

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He was a great fighter but skated on the draft for Vietnam and got away with it unlike many who couldn't or diidn't.
Just another sports star that has faded away.
 
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Lawrence

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He was a great fighter but skated on the draft for Vietnam and got away with it unlike many who didn't.

He definitely was the greatest nd boxing was never the same after he retired, even before he retired when they started all the crap about having a dozen differernt ruling bodies each with their own "World Champion"

On to the draft - if you listen to his arguments and beliefs he was a man of great inegrity and would not let anyone or anything sway him in his committed beliefs - "I have no quarrel with the Vietcong"

He won a gold medal for the USA at the olympics and was allegedly not allowed to drink water from a public facility. Apparently he threw his gold medal in the river after this incident. Sometimes we are too quick to believe what we read (and I could be guilty of doing that right here) and blindly trust the establishment.

Whateve the story is he made his mark in the world - may he RIP
 

STM

Senior Member
He definitely was the greatest nd boxing was never the same after he retired, even before he retired when they started all the crap about having a dozen differernt ruling bodies each with their own "World Champion"

On to the draft - if you listen to his arguments and beliefs he was a man of great inegrity and would not let anyone or anything sway him in his committed beliefs - "I have no quarrel with the Vietcong"

Perhaps, but I am sure neither did any of the 58,132 names on that wall, at least before THEY went over and fought a war that was never fought like we wanted to win it. For that matter, most of them had never even heard of Vietnam or even knew where it was on the map.

I was a junior in HS during the last stages of that war. I told my father that if the war was still going on when I graduated I would enlist in the Infantry. We had several family friends come home in aluminum shipping crates. He was dead set against it, telling me I should go to college. And this was even though he had been prior military. I told him if I survived my year in that s***hole I would as soon as I got back. But fate intervened and we pulled out of Saigon and let the North overrun it before I graduated. All of those lives lost and forever changed FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Ok I will get off of my soap box. As it turned out I eventually did wind up in the Air Assault Infantry and did 23 years between active duty and reserves and made 4 trips to that desert s***hole known as the Middle East beginning with Desert Storm.
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Perhaps, but I am sure neither did any of the 58,132 names on that wall, at least before THEY went over and fought a war that was never fought like we wanted to win it. For that matter, most of them had never even heard of Vietnam or even knew where it was on the map.

I was a junior in HS during the last stages of that war. I told my father that if the war was still going on when I graduated I would enlist in the Infantry. We had several family friends come home in aluminum shipping crates. He was dead set against it, telling me I should go to college. And this was even though he had been prior military. I told him if I survived my year in that s***hole I would as soon as I got back. But fate intervened and we pulled out of Saigon and let the North overrun it before I graduated. All of those lives lost and forever changed FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Ok I will get off of my soap box. As it turned out I eventually did wind up in the Air Assault Infantry and did 23 years between active duty and reserves and made 4 trips to that desert s***hole known as the Middle East beginning with Desert Storm.

Yes a very sad loss of life on both sides.

Although I sit on the other side of the world and may be far removed from things I do believe that the so called "free" world owes a lot to America so for that I thank-you for your service.

Pity though that anyone has to serve and the world cannot just live in harmony.
 
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