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mikeh32217

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Adobe Hacked: Almost 3 Million Accounts Compromised - Slashdot

"Adobe Systems Inc. is expected to announce today that hackers broke into its network and stole source code for an as-yet undetermined number of software titles, including its ColdFusion Web application platform, and possibly its Acrobat family of products. The company said hackers also accessed nearly three million customer credit card records, and stole login data for an undetermined number of Adobe user accounts."

Ain't this a mess?
 
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mikeh32217

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WhiteLight said:
If you didn't already know, the night that Adobe CC was announced, the entire Cloud Suite was cracked & put up for download :)
So much for anti-piracy..
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There's no way with present technology to make anything hack proof or totally secure. It's like the lock on your front door it's to keep most thieves honest, if they want in they will get in!
 
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WhiteLight

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mikeh32217 said:
There's no way with present technology to make anything hack proof or totally secure. It's like the lock on your front door it's to keep most thieves honest, if they want in they will get in!
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True. It's time these companies realize that to be a fact & stop fleecing the honest customers out there.
Or maybe they realize it & figured this to be the only way to make more money from those loyal to them..
Pirates will always be pirates ;)
 
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mikeh32217

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WhiteLight said:
True. It's time these companies realize that to be a fact & stop fleecing the honest customers out there.
Or maybe they realize it & figured this to be the only way to make more money from those loyal to them..
Pirates will always be pirates ;)
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Maybe if they priced there products so the average Joe could afford them.

I'm thinking it's just corporate greed that is the driving force because it don't look like piracy or anything else is hurting them.
[h=1]Adobe CEO's pay more than doubles to $12.2 million [/h]
 
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WhiteLight

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mikeh32217 said:
Maybe if they priced there products so the average Joe could afford them.

I'm thinking it's just corporate greed that is the driving force because it don't look like piracy or anything else is hurting them.
Adobe CEO's pay more than doubles to $12.2 million
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Definitely not.. They don't really care about the losses from piracy cos they understand they can't stop it.
All the head honchos with the fancy MBAs these days are elite thieves...
Very similar to the drug cartels.. if the world governments really wanted to stop it, they would have..
 
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Horoscope Fish

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WhiteLight said:
If you didn't already know, the night that Adobe CC was announced, the entire Cloud Suite was cracked & put up for download... So much for anti-piracy..
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Which will work for about a month until Adobe changes the hashes. Besides, you could always pirate Adobe products if that's what you wanted to do, so the piracy-aspect is nothing new and I'm sure Adobe see's it as part of the cost of doing business. They could, if they wanted to, inflict far, far more painful DRM protections and frankly I'm surprised they haven't. I've had $40 video games that are locked down a thousand times harder than any Adobe product I've ever owned.

And while I know this isn't going to win me any Popularity Contests, who among us can't afford $20 a month? I certainly could never afford to buy legit licenses for Photoshop, Light Room, In Design, Illustrator and Acrobat Pro but my Creative Cloud membership lets me have all of those and whole lot more. Looked at from this perspective one could argue the new CC pricing structure makes all of Adobe's premier software far, far more affordable for a far wider audience. Yes, in the long term, Adobe stands to make more money this way and frankly I don't have a problem with that. If you build a better mouse trap I'll decide if the cost is fair because, like most people, I'm willing to pay more for a quality product.

Then too we have to remember Adobe is a corporation and corporations have a duty to maximize profits for shareholders. If you don't like how Adobe does business, or don't see the value in Adobe's pricing structure, you are free to invest in Corel or ACDSee or a host of other products that compete with Adobe. Adobe is some of the most popular software, but it's certainly not the only game in town.

All that being said my personal feelings about Adobe's CC delivery and pricing are rather mixed. I don't want this post to be interpreted as me not seeing both sides of the coin because I assure you I do. I'm just pointing out some the more practical considerations that I think are being overlooked in a flurry of emotion.

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WhiteLight

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About it working for a month, not quite..
Apparently, working off the cloud is more in regards to storage aspect than the actual program ruining it's processes.
Once installed, the user would just need to block connections to certain servers which won't allow for access to the internet so anything adobe changes won't really matter... Except of course no updates. But hey the folks who do this make sure a new version of the update is available too..
Regarding the monthly $20, not that people can't afford it. Its just that you are paying for something that you will not ever own.. they can change the exorbitant costs they usually do and allow people who spend their hard earned money to use at will for how ever long they want.. I have friends using CS3 even today and get their job done.. they may not be able to afford every version of cs or don't really care cos what they have is good enough.
At the end of the day would you rather pay rent for your house for the rest of your life or OWN your own home?
Don't get me wrong PS and most of adobes products are awesome and may even be worth what they used to charge, and there is nothing on this planet yet that can do everything it can, but there is something about doing business where you won't be left with a sour taste in the mouth. People buy really expensive stuff all the time, but they pay knowing that they not being taken for a ride and that at the end of the day they have what they paid for and are free to do what they want with it..
I never had that much of a problem even with the super high costs of adobe products cos they certainly had the class. But being tied to something forever and have nothing to show for it us not good business but a con job.
 
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Steve B

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You can't justify hacking into a company and taking my personal info and credit card info by saying the company is overcharging their customers. You are hurting me more than the company you are claiming is the villian. I do not understand why people try to justify a hackers actions.
I use Adobe CC and have been happy with it. Right now I am paying the $20 intro price. When the price increases for me next year I will have to look at my options.
One common misconception that keeps showing up in these types of thread is that you own the software. You do not own the software, you own a license to use the software. Totally different from a legal standpoint.
 
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Horoscope Fish

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WhiteLight said:
About it working for a month, not quite..
Apparently, working off the cloud is more in regards to storage aspect than the actual program ruining it's processes. Once installed, the user would just need to block connections to certain servers which won't allow for access to the internet so anything adobe changes won't really matter... Except of course no updates. But hey the folks who do this make sure a new version of the update is available too...
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Hooray, Port Blocking!! What fun that'll be... Especially when the little hash that has to be verified before your install of Photoshop even starts-up... Doesn't get verified and, in turn, politely pops up a little message about your software being inaccessible and how you should call this little ol' 1-800-GET-ADOBE number to speak to a Customer Service representative. That, or you can wait until it CAN connect to the Adobe Mother Ship to verify your account is paid up because, gee whiz... No one at Adobe could possibly have anticipated such a clever plan! And all that effort so you *don't* get updates *and* you have to constantly re-hack your install to stay current? Fun stuff... I'm sure there are those that will suffer this to save a few bucks but again, I'm sure Adobe sees this all as part of the cost of doing business. The problem with piracy is... It's a pain. I know because I've been there, done that.


WhiteLight said:
Regarding the monthly $20, not that people can't afford it. Its just that you are paying for something that you will not ever own.. they can change the exorbitant costs they usually do and allow people who spend their hard earned money to use at will for how ever long they want.. I have friends using CS3 even today and get their job done.. they may not be able to afford every version of cs or don't really care cos what they have is good enough.
At the end of the day would you rather pay rent for your house for the rest of your life or OWN your own home?
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You never own software unless you yourself write it. What you have with commercial software is an individual license to use the software in agreement with the Terms of Service contract you agree to before you can install the software. You may *feel* like you own the software because you have a physical disk in your hand, but you don't. I could burn a copy of my CC installs and have a physical copy but I still wouldn't own the software; only the disk I burned it to.
 
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WhiteLight

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Not for a sec am I saying what the hackers did was right!
Just talking about how things work.. the fact that adobe knows that this exists and the whole concept of cloud base service was said to fight piracy. When in hind sight the customers who paid for a local version of the software now pay a lot more in the long run.. like HF noted if anti piracy was on the mind, protection would've been better as opposed to making more money..
I have no issue them charging as they deem right for a version of the software where I own a copy (not just the disk it came in). Definitely there are merits to whats being offered as pointed out by members here, just that I don't feel this is the way to go.. what if one wants to use one day in a month? Maybe edit just a couple of images?
Very similar to the ps3 debate.
If you buy the hardware you own it and are free to do what you please. Legality is a completely different issue.
This obviously is what I feel about it.
 
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