No market for DX cameras, or so we are told

mikew_RIP

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The top 10 camera sales in the last decade


  1. Canon EOS Kiss X7
  2. Canon EOS Kiss X5
  3. Canon EOS Kiss X7i
  4. Nikon D5300
  5. Canon EOS Kiss X4
  6. Sony α6000
  7. Nikon D3100
  8. Canon EOS 60D
  9. Nikon D3200
  10. Nikon D5100

Wonder if the next decade will show only 1 DSLR and 9 mirrorless :D
 

Dawg Pics

Senior Member
That is what I was thinking. Price and entry level for people who are beginners. I'd like to see the list of the ones collecting dust after people realized that shooting takes some learning.
 

carguy

Senior Member
The top 10 camera sales in the last decade


  1. Canon EOS Kiss X7
  2. Canon EOS Kiss X5
  3. Canon EOS Kiss X7i
  4. Nikon D5300
  5. Canon EOS Kiss X4
  6. Sony α6000
  7. Nikon D3100
  8. Canon EOS 60D
  9. Nikon D3200
  10. Nikon D5100

Wonder if the next decade will show only 1 DSLR and 9 mirrorless :D

Who is saying there is no market for crop sensor cameras? They are full of it.
 

BackdoorArts

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I watched one useless and incomprehensible YouTube video that screamed about the stupidity of the Z50 release, but within the same video he lamented all DX crop shooters who use FX glass because "you're wasting light" - his exact words, not mine. But outside of the who's saying there's no market?

Will we see another pro level DX? Probably not. But when you have 50-60MP mirrorless cameras cameras that can deliver 20MP's in cropped mode with the EVF cropping as well, you probably won't see another one. But a "market" is defined by what's available at what price point. I think Nikon would be utterly foolish to drop another 3xxx or 5xxx series camera, and I vaguely remember there being a rumor that this wouldn't happen. If they do another 7xxx camera it will probably parallel the D780 in that it'll be a D7500 with a Z50 sensor and mirrorless functions available in Live View - effectively a mirrorless for someone slow on the uptick or otherwise unwilling to make the change.

I saw a review of CES that spoke of the Canon 1Dx Mk iii as probably being the last major DSLR release you'll see by Canon and I believe it. Mirrorless tech is finally such that you don't need the optical viewfinder any more, and you are getting functionality you could never implement on a DSLR. Add to it that smartphone cameras are growing in leaps and bounds the market is going to squeeze into mirrorless-only over time when it comes to anything that you don't text your friends with.
 

Bikerbrent

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I agree with Jake. The days of the DLSR are at or near the end. Mirrorless is the camera of the future. Too bad Nikon had to cripple the Z50 by not including the in-body VR which means you will lose all VR capabilityes on all FX Z lenses. If Nikon had included the in-body VR in Z50, and seeing the images I see for this camera, I would be in the market for one. As it now stands, I will await an upgraded Z50, or a lower cost, non-crippled FX Z camera. Hope my wait will not be as in-vane as the wait for a D400 to replace my D200 was!
 

Rick M

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I'd like to see nikon test the waters with a higher pixel density Dx mirrorless, 32mp in the Z50 form with stabilization. With fast readout and processing capacity it could be a hit for wildlife shooters, I'd buy one. As it is the Z50 is a cute, fun little camera at a great price point. After handling one at bestbuy, I really wished they had released it in conjunction with the discontinuation of the Nikon 1 series; I think their market share would be much greater today.
 

Woodyg3

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In all seriousness, I'm thinking of buying a D500 body or two before they disappear. If I treat them well, I may not need another camera in my lifetime. :)
 

hark

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Does Canon offer any type of pro DX body? Or is Nikon the only manufacturer with a pro DSLR body?
 

TwistedThrottle

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Well, there's the 32.5 MP Canon EOS 90d.
Pro? What does that even mean anymore? Its weather sealed, shoots 10FPS in RAW auto focuses down to -3ev and costs over a grand. BUT, it only has 1 card slot so it must not be pro. (LOL!)
 

mikew_RIP

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In all seriousness, I'm thinking of buying a D500 body or two before they disappear. If I treat them well, I may not need another camera in my lifetime. :)

It will be a while before mirrorless match those for action but they dont have IBIS,didnt you know cameras without it are crap

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Danno

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In all seriousness, I'm thinking of buying a D500 body or two before they disappear. If I treat them well, I may not need another camera in my lifetime. :)

You know, realistically, if the D500 or DXYZ is meeting your needs why not do what you are talking about Woody. That body is designed and optimized around the very thing you enjoy shooting the most. As long as you can handle the weight it will serve you well and a couple extra bodies will be kind of handy as you exceed the shutter and button life.

I think the Z6 is very close to that camera for me... It does pretty much every thing I want. I love the IBIS because it extends the my ability to hand hold shots. I like the WYSIWYG because I can use ND filters and still adjust for focus and exposure and see what your result will be except for how the water may look.

As for the the "no market for DX" claim?? I really cannot figure out that foolishness. If that were the case why would Nikon have built a DX mirrorless. The Z50 is getting a lot of attention and this new sales gimmick of "try it you will buy it" makes sense to me. It is better than renting one to see if you like it.
 

mikeee

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You know, realistically, if the D500 or DXYZ is meeting your needs why not do what you are talking about Woody. That body is designed and optimized around the very thing you enjoy shooting the most. As long as you can handle the weight it will serve you well and a couple extra bodies will be kind of handy as you exceed the shutter and button life.

I think the Z6 is very close to that camera for me... It does pretty much every thing I want. I love the IBIS because it extends the my ability to hand hold shots. I like the WYSIWYG because I can use ND filters and still adjust for focus and exposure and see what your result will be except for how the water may look.

As for the the "no market for DX" claim?? I really cannot figure out that foolishness. If that were the case why would Nikon have built a DX mirrorless. The Z50 is getting a lot of attention and this new sales gimmick of "try it you will buy it" makes sense to me. It is better than renting one to see if you like it.

Maybe he can wait a bit and the price will come down! :D
That was my thinking with the D7500 I picked up... I was happy with the D7100.
 
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