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01-23-2021, 08:23 PM #1
A Re-Shoot of M42 and NGC 1973-5-7
I went out and re-shot the Bright Orion and Running Man nebulae last night with the D-500 and 400mm f/2.8 ED IF AIS Nikkor. I am quite happy with this one, though cutting my exposure to 0.5 second should, by the MFN calculation, which said 0.4 sec) eliminate star trailing but I still got just a little bit. I did not alter the colors at all, this is just what they looked like after 2 iterations of levels "stretching" in PS. The swirls of atmospheric dust and gases are amazing. Now I just wish my telescope would get here!
I am going to get this one printed 16x20!
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8-15mm f/3.5-4.5 AFS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2.8 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/2.8 AIS, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 35-70mm /3.5 AIS, 50mm f/1.8 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 85mm f/1.4 AIS ,135mm f/2 AIS, 80-200 f/4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 105mm 2.8 AIS Micro, 180mm f/2.8 AIS, 200mm f/2 AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS, 300mm f/2.8 AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS
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01-23-2021, 08:48 PM #2Re: A Re-Shoot of M42 and NGC 1973-5-7
Nice, I was trying to shoot Orion last night with a wider-field 90mm lens. If there was no moon I think it would have worked a lot better. But it helps to be zoomed-in under those conditions.
I think I have decided to keep using Siril for the stack and initial exposure-stretching. I stacked 60 images (70 second exposures) and managed to have a workable photo in under 90 minutes of effort. I bet it would bring out the full circle of the nebula in your photo if you tried.
01-24-2021, 10:00 PM #3Re: A Re-Shoot of M42 and NGC 1973-5-7
DSS has worked well for me, at least with DSO objects. For the moon I have just been using Zerene Stacker and it seems to work ok. I did break out the whole "ring" of M42 but since it was faint and I liked this crop better, I chose to go without it. I could have dodged it in PS if I had wanted to. Tonight I am going after the Flame and Horse Head nebulae with the D500 and 400mm f/2.8 ED IF AIS Nikkor. I got two Bahtinov masks in the mail a couple of days ago so I will use the one for the 400mm to focus on Regel to ensure the focus is perfect!
The moon will be a good source of light pollution tonight since it is supposed to be a waxing Gibbous with 79% showing, but two good stretches and subtracting the background noise out of the image using Apply Image and Subtract in PS works well. I finish things using Camera Raw filter and apply some darkening of the blacks, the dehaze filter and clarity filter and I can pretty much make all of it go away. What is still vexing is the slight star trailing. I go to a site which uses the complicated MFN calculation for calculating the maximum shutter speed to avoid trailing. The rule of 500 is outdated and to a great extent useless and no one I have talked with uses it any more. It might work if you are using very wide lenses but not with telephoto lenses. At first I thought it might just be coma, but that is only seen near the edges of the frame and not normally seen with lenses of this focal length so I discounted that. The MFN calc said I could use 0.7 sec so I went with 0.5 sec to be on the safe side but still got some. I am just going to have to wait until I get my telescope and az-alt mount and wedge (which turns it into an equatorial mount) to eliminate it.
This is the site if you are interested:
Société Astronomique du Havre - Règle NPF : temps de pose pour éviter le filé d'étoiles (archive.org) Microsoft Edge will translate the page because it is in French.FTn, F2A, FT2, FE2, F4E, D850, D500, D750
8-15mm f/3.5-4.5 AFS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2.8 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/2.8 AIS, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 35-70mm /3.5 AIS, 50mm f/1.8 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 85mm f/1.4 AIS ,135mm f/2 AIS, 80-200 f/4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 105mm 2.8 AIS Micro, 180mm f/2.8 AIS, 200mm f/2 AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS, 300mm f/2.8 AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS
01-24-2021, 10:22 PM #4Re: A Re-Shoot of M42 and NGC 1973-5-7
Something else that has helped me tremendously, not having a go-to mount yet, is this little sight I built out in the shop. It is made from some 1" Sch 80 PVC pipe and two pieces of clear 0.1" acrylic sheet. I made a "reticle" in PS and used it as a template to mark around the rear piece of acrylic with glow in the dark paint. The front piece only has 1 dot in it, that is the out of focus "blob" in the image lower right. With a long lens, trying to slew the camera to a small nebula is a pretty difficult task to say the least, but with this little $5 home made gadget, it is a piece of cake! Necessity is the mother of all inventions!
Last edited by STM; 01-24-2021 at 11:49 PM.
FTn, F2A, FT2, FE2, F4E, D850, D500, D750
8-15mm f/3.5-4.5 AFS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2.8 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/2.8 AIS, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 35-70mm /3.5 AIS, 50mm f/1.8 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 85mm f/1.4 AIS ,135mm f/2 AIS, 80-200 f/4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 105mm 2.8 AIS Micro, 180mm f/2.8 AIS, 200mm f/2 AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS, 300mm f/2.8 AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS
01-24-2021, 10:22 PM
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