That I can't answer... I haven't heard the VR can't be turned off thing myself, but I haven't really looked into any of these lenses in detail.I saw this and was intrigued by the new 10-20 DX (especially the price), but I read that the older bodies may not be able to turn off the VR on the new AF-P lenses unless Nikon releases a firmware update...is there any truth to that?
The Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 is a superb lens, I really don't think anyone would debate that. And since you're shooting a D7100 you can get the less expensive version without the on-board focus motor. It produces a fair amount of chromatic aberration but that's something I find pretty easy to deal with when post-processing. The 11-20mm f/2.8 is a little more flexible, obviously, in focal length but I could be happy with either. I currently have the 11-16mm and like it a lot. I also (strongly!) prefer fixed aperture lenses, but that's me.Would I be better off looking at a used Tokina 11-16 or 11-20 if I want to get into the world of Ultra Wide lenses? I know the Tokina would give me a constant 2.8 lens as opposed to the 4.5-5.6 variable of the Nikon.
I saw this and was intrigued by the new 10-20 DX (especially the price), but I read that the older bodies may not be able to turn off the VR on the new AF-P lenses unless Nikon releases a firmware update...is there any truth to that?
I shoot with a 7100.
Would I be better off looking at a used Tokina 11-16 or 11-20 if I want to get into the world of Ultra Wide lenses? I know the Tokina would give me a constant 2.8 lens as opposed to the 4.5-5.6 variable of the Nikon.
Having just bought a Tokina 11-20 2.8 the DX Ultra-wide came too late.
Unfortunately, after decades of Nikon working hard to ensure that new bodies work with older lenses and new lenses work with older bodies, they seem to have reversed course. So it appears true that the D7100 or even D7200 will NOT work fully with the new lenses. Apparently Nikon has decided to help their bottom line by forcing their users to upgrade both their cameras and lenses at the same time.
I'm suspicious Nikon is moving toward a business model aimed much more, if not exclusively, at professionals.
I'm suspicious Nikon is moving toward a business model aimed much more, if not exclusively, at professionals. Meaning more high-end bodies (whether mirrored or mirror-less (maybe both)), high-end glass and, course... Prices to match. The hobbyist/pro-sumer market I see being left virtually unsupported. I have a sneaking suspicion Nikon will, at some point in the not too distant future, come on the scene with at least one new mirror-less offering aimed at the professional market, again with a price-tag to match. I think they'll want something with a certain amount of lens support "built in" so you're not just buying a camera, you're buying a complete system; maybe even utilizing the current F-mount to allow for all that sweet, sweet vintage glass to be utilized.
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts/donuts, Nikon releases more and more pro-level gear in the coming months/years while releasing less and less gear aimed at the more casual shooter. The release of the more budget-oriented 10-20mm DX lens does nothing to convince me otherwise. Of course I'm only speculating.
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