The Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70mm Confusion

craig-uk

New member
Hi Folks,

Hoping somebody out there can help me out with a bit with my research on the Tokina at-x pro 28-70mm.

So far I have learnt that there are several types of this lens available, however I am only interested in one or two of them.

The one I'd like is the Tokina ATX-Pro Angenieux Type 28-70mm F/2.6-2.8 [version 1 or 2].

Finding the F/2.6-2.8 versions are proving to be a bit allusive. To add to my frustration I see alot of F/2.8 versions on eBay
originating from Japan. These F/2.8 versions look identical to the two I am searching for but are never really advertised as
the Angenieux types.

I was wondering if any of you have had experience with the F/2.8 version or weather or not these are just the Jamanese Angenieux
types lenses.

Hope that makes sense :)

Thanks.

Craig.
 

Bikerbrent

Senior Member
Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride.
We look forward to seeing more posts and samples of your work.

I have one of the Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70mm F2.6-2.8 lenses left over from my film days, and have found this is one great lens. And NO it is NOT for sale.
 

Tami Jo

Senior Member
Love the Tokina Lens, good luck finding one! You might be able to find a good one, not everyone understands that the older legacy type lenses
still porduce great results on the current dslr's.
 

Call_me_Tom

Senior Member
What is the Angenieux version and what makes it special?

I’ve owned the first generation of the Tokina 28-70/2.8 and it’s a good lens. I never used it on film but on digital I found it light compact and sharp.

I purchased mine from Japan through eBay.

Unfortunately, I borked mine when I was disassembling it and lost some of the screws. I ended up giving the lens to a former coworker to toy with. I wouldn’t mind picking up another one in the future, my N24-70/2.8G gets heavy on long walks.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
Hi Folks,

Hoping somebody out there can help me out with a bit with my research on the Tokina at-x pro 28-70mm.

So far I have learnt that there are several types of this lens available, however I am only interested in one or two of them.

The one I'd like is the Tokina ATX-Pro Angenieux Type 28-70mm F/2.6-2.8 [version 1 or 2].

Finding the F/2.6-2.8 versions are proving to be a bit allusive. To add to my frustration I see alot of F/2.8 versions on eBay
originating from Japan. These F/2.8 versions look identical to the two I am searching for but are never really advertised as
the Angenieux types.

I was wondering if any of you have had experience with the F/2.8 version or weather or not these are just the Jamanese Angenieux
types lenses.

Hope that makes sense :)

Thanks.

Craig.
I wish you luck on your search, there are numerous versions of the Tok' 28-70mm; some good, some not so good. Of course original Angenieux variants are very highly sought-after and therefore the most difficult to find.

This site should help you pin down whether or not that ebay listing is selling the version you're looking for: Tokina AT-X PRO AF 28-70mm
 

craig-uk

New member
Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride.
We look forward to seeing more posts and samples of your work.

I have one of the Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70mm F2.6-2.8 lenses left over from my film days, and have found this is one great lens. And NO it is NOT for sale.

Thanks for your reply Bikerbrent.. Thats a pitty you wont part with your awesome lens :p The search continues! I'll certainly be posting some of my work in due time.
 

craig-uk

New member
Love the Tokina Lens, good luck finding one! You might be able to find a good one, not everyone understands that the older legacy type lenses
still porduce great results on the current dslr's.

Yes I cant wait to find the right one. The do say good things come to those who wait :)
 

craig-uk

New member
What is the Angenieux version and what makes it special?

I’ve owned the first generation of the Tokina 28-70/2.8 and it’s a good lens. I never used it on film but on digital I found it light compact and sharp.

I purchased mine from Japan through eBay.

Unfortunately, I borked mine when I was disassembling it and lost some of the screws. I ended up giving the lens to a former coworker to toy with. I wouldn’t mind picking up another one in the future, my N24-70/2.8G gets heavy on long walks.

Tom, Theres a few versions out there and I am a little confused as to which version has the Angenieux heritage. You have the F/2.8 version, which according to my research was for the Japanese market. These seem to be the ones that are most available as apposed to the F2.6-2.8 versions (which I know for sure have the Angenieux link).

Angenieux made high qaulity lenses back in the film days. They teamed up with Tokina at some point I think it was to help them develop an AF system. Legend has it that after Angenieux was bought by another company they dedicated their time to making lenses for movie cameras and lenses for military use. It was then Tokina created these cult lenses using the Angenieux system. I might be wrong on the final points but thats the general jist.

How was the weight of your 28-70mm compaired to your N24-70?
 

craig-uk

New member
I wish you luck on your search, there are numerous versions of the Tok' 28-70mm; some good, some not so good. Of course original Angenieux variants are very highly sought-after and therefore the most difficult to find.

This site should help you pin down whether or not that ebay listing is selling the version you're looking for:Link removed

Thanks for your reply, great link btw.. I have read the John Caz blog regarding this lens. However it never really gave me the definitive answer I am looking for, just made the confusion worse. For example, he only links the Angenieux version to the 2.6-2.8 lenses. But when I trawl the 2.8 versions on ebay they look totally identical to the 2.6-2.8's in every way, even on the v1 lenses they have the weird screw on hood.
 

Call_me_Tom

Senior Member
Tom, Theres a few versions out there and I am a little confused as to which version has the Angenieux heritage. You have the F/2.8 version, which according to my research was for the Japanese market. These seem to be the ones that are most available as apposed to the F2.6-2.8 versions (which I know for sure have the Angenieux link).

Angenieux made high qaulity lenses back in the film days. They teamed up with Tokina at some point I think it was to help them develop an AF system. Legend has it that after Angenieux was bought by another company they dedicated their time to making lenses for movie cameras and lenses for military use. It was then Tokina created these cult lenses using the Angenieux system. I might be wrong on the final points but thats the general jist.

How was the weight of your 28-70mm compaired to your N24-70?

Thank you for the information on the Angenieux version, now I want to find one!

In comparison, the N24-70/2.8G is a brick. The N24-70/2.8G is close to the same size as my AFS70-300/4.5-5.6 and the weight feels equal to my D700. The Tokina 28-70/2.8 was all metal but felt, weight wise, equal to my old N16-85/3.5-4.5 and it was smaller than that lens.
 

craig-uk

New member
Thanks everyone for all your info.. So wee update. I got myself a good example of the Version 2 lens finally for a decent price, however once I got it on my camera body (D5100) I am getting a messge to set the aperture ring to the smallest setting which will be F/22.. One problem.. the aperture ring wont slide all the way to F/22. It sits between F/16 and F/22. When I take the lens off the A-ring slides all the way home to F22 and during the coupling process the ring is knocked back between the two apertures. Can anyone advice me as to whats happening here and how to mitigate this?
 

craig-uk

New member
Update: I have managed to get the lens up and running. I traced it back to a little protruding plastic thing that was pushing the small metal aperture tab back once i clicked the lens home. Luckly the plastic thing pushes back into the body like a switch. I held it down and the lens clicked home with the aperture tab on the lens sitting ontop of it and the error messege has now gone and the lens is operational. Sorry for the lack of technical knowlege describing the bits and bobs on the lens and camera :)
 

Bikerbrent

Senior Member
Are you referring to a black tab to the right of the F-stop rings? If so, this is a locking device for the F-stop. When the lab is pushed upward (towards front of lens), the F-stop ring will move freely. However, if you set the F-stop ring to F22 (green mark), then slide the tab downward (exposing a green mark) then the F-stop will be locked at F22 for autofocus. Returning this tab to the upward position unlocks the F-stop ring. This tab may have been forced downward when the F-stop ring was not at F22, causing the issue you noted. At least this is the way in works on my Gen 2 lens. Congratulations, this is one great lens.
 

craig-uk

New member
Are you referring to a black tab to the right of the F-stop rings? If so, this is a locking device for the F-stop. When the lab is pushed upward (towards front of lens), the F-stop ring will move freely. However, if you set the F-stop ring to F22 (green mark), then slide the tab downward (exposing a green mark) then the F-stop will be locked at F22 for autofocus. Returning this tab to the upward position unlocks the F-stop ring. This tab may have been forced downward when the F-stop ring was not at F22, causing the issue you noted. At least this is the way in works on my Gen 2 lens. Congratulations, this is one great lens.

If you can imagine on the camera body at 8 'clock https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/fc/a3/b0fca353146a195a2b5ae80f0b998eb5.jpg <<< As seen on this pic The aperture tab on the lens comes in contact with this little button and it knocked the aperture back a notch (the locking switch seems to not fully engage. Must be broken unfortunatley) to just past F/16. So with a pencil (yes high-tech gadgetry!) I pressed the little button down as I clicked the lens in place and the result was the camera was good to go :)

First impressions of the lens are that its way heavier than anything I have had attached before. Not too heavy mind you but I cant help think how heavy it will feel attached to a D700! I took some shots of my Netgear Nas for selling earlier and I was very happy with the results. Next step is getting out in the field and giving it a good go.

As I mentioned I took a few shots with it and once I had loaded the first image into Camera Raw I realised Photoshop didnt have a lens correction profile for my Tokina. Do you have any advice about this issue? To be honest I had'nt given much thought to this prior to buying the lens :)
 

Bikerbrent

Senior Member
I should have read your posting a little more carefully. The D5100 does NOT have a autofocus motor in the camera body. Therefore, this lens will NOT autofocus on this camera body. It will work in manual focus mode only. The little button you are referring to is where the AF drive is located on my D7200. I do not know what the function of this button is on the D5100. However, the lens will autofocus on a D700 since this camera does have an builtin autofocus motor. You might want to take a look at https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/nikon-slr-camera-and-lens-compatibility
 

craig-uk

New member
I should have read your posting a little more carefully. The D5100 does NOT have a autofocus motor in the camera body. Therefore, this lens will NOT autofocus on this camera body. It will work in manual focus mode only. The little button you are referring to is where the AF drive is located on my D7200. I do not know what the function of this button is on the D5100. However, the lens will autofocus on a D700 since this camera does have an builtin autofocus motor. You might want to take a look at https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/nikon-slr-camera-and-lens-compatibility

Manual mode is fine for me, I was aware of this anyway. I do plan to upgrade to fullframe really soon. The D700 is what I have my eye on actually. Just got to find the right one and sell my D5100. Just going to check out this link you have supplied :)
 
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