Where does the D500 leave us D7XXX shooters.

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
The D500 has some great spec,its what many have been waiting for,there is a but in it though,but what about the very large numbers of photographers that will not buy in due to the price.
Now ime not knocking the price,the camera is probably worth every penny,it is over specified for me though so in some ways it makes it over priced for me.
Just off the top of my head I dont want/need 10fps,200 shot buffer or be able to knock nails in with the camera body.
This leaves me with the D7XXX range so will we see a D7300,will it inherit advanced AF ability from the D500,will Nikon use its pro DX as a come on to other DX shooters by going down the road of advertising the latest D7XXX,with features from the advanced D500.
I come back to what I normally want in a upgrade better noise handling and better AF,and a cost of no more than £500 on top of my trade in.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
I haven't lusted over a new body for quite a while, and neither the 5 or 500 do a thing for me.

I'm happy with the schtuff I have. It all works, I'm comfortable with it, and it all gets me the results I want.

If it ain't broke, I'm not lookin' to fix it.
 
I am very happy with my D7100 and never even thought of upgrading to the D7200. My goal was the D750 and now that I have that I think I will be set for the foreseeable future. I have the 2 Beast cameras from Nikon
 

Roy1961

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Contributor
the "She indoors" boss said I have no hope for the D5, nothing on the D500, so that's a definite maybe
 

cbay

Senior Member
Can the technology really be that much better in terms of IQ? Features i can see that but i got the feeling the sensor performance will be better but marginally. It it is that much better it's going to be hard to settle with but not much i can do about it...
 

Blacktop

Senior Member
I'm not sure I understand the question. The d500 has not done anything to us D7XXX shooters at all. My D7100 still performs the same as ever before. Your D7200 didn't all of a sudden turn into a pile of crap because the D500 showed up. (Hell, it hasn't even shown up yet):indecisiveness:
In the meantime, take a listen.

 
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jay_dean

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Just off the top of my head I dont want/need 10fps,200 shot buffer or be able to knock nails in with the camera body.
This leaves me with the D7XXX range so will we see a D7300,will it inherit advanced AF ability from the D500,will Nikon use its pro DX as a come on to other DX shooters by going down the road of advertising the latest D7XXX,with features from the advanced D500.
I come back to what I normally want in a upgrade better noise handling and better AF,and a cost of no more than £500 on top of my trade in.

Ditto that. My D7200 is solely a birding camera, nothing else, and the only thing i don't like about it is the low light handling performance. The D500 would have to be leaps and bounds better, and still leave great IQ with heavy cropping for me to invest that much for only one aspect of its abilities. Unless it does, i'll carry on using the D7200 for 6 months a year
 

mikew_RIP

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Can the technology really be that much better in terms of IQ? Features i can see that but i got the feeling the sensor performance will be better but marginally. It it is that much better it's going to be hard to settle with but not much i can do about it...

Not enough for me,thats why i put the question in,i would pay for an upgrade in AF and hope for a upgrade in ISO performance though that would just be a bonus,in this country any upgrade with AF is a help especially for BIF.
 

mikew_RIP

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Ditto that. My D7200 is solely a birding camera, nothing else, and the only thing i don't like about it is the low light handling performance. The D500 would have to be leaps and bounds better, and still leave great IQ with heavy cropping for me to invest that much for only one aspect of its abilities. Unless it does, i'll carry on using the D7200 for 6 months a year

Ime thinking you mean low light performance against FX as i find the D7200 to be a very capable for current DX technology,like you i still want better.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
I'm not sure I understand the question. The d500 has not done anything to us D7XXX shooters at all. My D7100 still performs the same as ever before. Your D7200 didn't all of a sudden turn into a pile of crap because the D500 showed up. (Hell, it hasn't even shown up yet):indecisiveness:
In the meantime, take a listen.


Sorry i thought i had kept it simple :D

I want technology advances,not going down the road of do i need them thats for me to know, i will say i want them,the question was where will nikon take the D7XXX range now its launched a pro DX.
 
Is there really a market for a DX that costs as much or even more than some of the FX cameras that are out there now? I can see a few hard core birders wanting one for the buffer or is some of it just marketing against the other players in the field like Sony or canon?
 

Moab Man

Senior Member
I could see a spot in my stable for shooting sports. It's not often, and I have really improved my timing, that the D7100 buffer is an issue - but it is sometimes. If the D500 can manage an ISO noise level between the DX and FX then I would be in when combined with the 10 fps. However, 10 fps doesn't sell me on it's own. So really it comes down to there needing to be a big deal improvement in the ISO noise.
 

mikew_RIP

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One of the normal questions when someone talks about upgrading a body is have you reached the limit of what the one you have will do for you,my answer with the D7200 is yes,i hit it straight after buying it.Not talking all the technical ability's the camera has but my normal two areas AF speed and accuracy and noise levels,if i bought a D500 ime sure i could max it out in those two areas and want better in no time,its the nature of man,or at least me wanting that even more difficult shot.
My D7200 is perfectly usable so when i only want improvement in two areas i cough a bit at being faced with a camera cost like the D500, which takes loads of things way beyond what i want improving,hence my desire for Nikon not to loose interest in the D7XXX range.
 

Geoffc

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I'm not really sure what the problem is. When the D300 line was around you could buy the D7000 as an alternative if you wanted pretty high end amateur features, but not quite the more pro like build and features of the 300. Surely it'll be the same when the 500 is out as it won't kill the 7000 series as they are in a massively different price bracket. It's no more than another option if you need the features.

We have a couple of 7100 bodies in our house and they are undoubtedly superior to the 300 and 300s that they were upgraded from, however they were never a D300 replacement, just a way of getting access to more up to date sensors.

I suspect we will get a couple of D500 bodies at some point, but only when I think it makes sense. I am disappointed about the lack of flash as it won't be able to be a commander for my R1C1 macro lights, but I can work around that with a speed light as commander.

This whole thing is like comparing Ford (uk build spec not US) and BMW. They both do a great job, but they offer different facilities or build and the price reflects that. They compete for a different audience.


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mikew_RIP

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I'm not really sure what the problem is. When the D300 line was around you could buy the D7000 as an alternative if you wanted pretty high end amateur features, but not quite the more pro like build and features of the 300. Surely it'll be the same when the 500 is out as it won't kill the 7000 series as they are in a massively different price bracket. It's no more than another option if you need the features.

We have a couple of 7100 bodies in our house and they are undoubtedly superior to the 300 and 300s that they were upgraded from, however they were never a D300 replacement, just a way of getting access to more up to date sensors.

I suspect we will get a couple of D500 bodies at some point, but only when I think it makes sense. I am disappointed about the lack of flash as it won't be able to be a commander for my R1C1 macro lights, but I can work around that with a speed light as commander.

This whole thing is like comparing Ford (uk build spec not US) and BMW. They both do a great job, but they offer different facilities or build and the price reflects that. They compete for a different audience.


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I hope you right my concern was if Nikon decided not to Take D7XXX any further but concentrate on the D500 and D5500 ranges in the hope of pushing purchasers wanting more higher up the price range.
 

Danno

Senior Member
I am really pleased with the D7200. I got into photography the end of October 2014. I bought a D3200 and loved it. I took lots of pictures with it. I started thinking about upgrading and bounced between the 7100 and a full frame. I settled on the 7100 because it was more cost effective for me and it had a motor to drive older AF lenses. Than the D7200 came out and I thought and it just made sense to spend a little more for the improvements that it offered over the D7100. The price difference was not that big, and in the end I got my refurbished D7200 for a song.

I think it is a great camera and more than meets my needs... and it was in a price range that I could afford. There will always be something better.
 

Chris@sabor

Senior Member
Not enough for me,thats why i put the question in,i would pay for an upgrade in AF and hope for a upgrade in ISO performance though that would just be a bonus,in this country any upgrade with AF is a help especially for BIF.

IQ, to me is not only based on the shots I get. It's based on the shots i could have got. Based on the advertised specs, 10 FPS, huge buffer, newer better autofocus, and hopefully better ISO performance means I'll get many more chances to capture usable images in a dynamic situation.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
IQ, to me is not only based on the shots I get. It's based on the shots i could have got. Based on the advertised specs, 10 FPS, huge buffer, newer better autofocus, and hopefully better ISO performance means I'll get many more chances to capture usable images in a dynamic situation.

This is where we have to allow for the fact different people require different things,being retired i go out every day the weather permits and have gone through the 7000,7100 and now have the 7200,each one has brought improvements for me,although the AF has improved along the way its still the one area that i loose shots through,10 fps would not help i never use anything more than Continuous Low,a bird flying past single shot would do but when one is coming head on in the sort of light we get in the UK the cameras can just not keep up with AF most of the time.
This is why i hope they continue to develop and improve the D7XXX range as i only need improvements to a small part of my camera to improve my keeper rate.
 
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