Does anybody feel the way I do???????

richarde1605

Senior Member
Sorry to paraphrase Peter Frampton:

A little about my story, had a box camera, and loved that you could take multiple images, I went to the Isle of Mann with a Zenit E in 1989. Got excited and bought an F601 and a Sony TR2000E to play with, I had fun with them in the UK in 94. all that stolen in 1998. Since then, phone camera, so to test the waters I am now the very proud owner of a D7000 and some lenses.

So to the point, I feel the 'camera' is more of a projector than a recorder, in that I can express myself in ways that are not easily understood.

I see an emotion in the still image, things the eye did not see, but captured none the less, in that frame in time.

I hope to have some fun here, and would welcome any advice..

Peace
Richard
 

That Steve Guy

New member
I find myself often quoting Jerry Garcia and Ozzy Osborne. Can never go wrong with Frampton IMHO. I agree that you can capture a slice of time that illicits a certain emotion (photos of Buddhist monks self immolating for example).

I also agree that you can also use personal creativity to filter a photo through your minds eye to capture something that is not easily seen, or could not be seen otherwise (light painting, Infra Red, high speed shutter, and HDR techniques for example). Just a simple conversion from color to B&W can be enough to radically change the mood of a photo.

So, short answer, Yes, I would agree with the veracity both statements.

I also have a D7000 and I love, love, love this camera. It is two months old to me, so, still learning the features. Hope to see some of your work in the near future.

Cheers
 

richarde1605

Senior Member
I like all of these, some are abstract, some not so. I like the blurred view, and also the crisp.
Although I am new here, I want to share my perspective of my world, I need glasses.....


My week that was.....
 

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richarde1605

Senior Member
I view it as both a projector and a recorder.


You have a job to do Rick, as far as the recorder. Do you let people see the projection? How does it work if someone else is picking up the tab? They want to see what they want, but surely you tweak it to your view a bit. And no doubt the images are better than they expected....... Steve mentioned 'the minds eye'..
In my experience, people are surprised that so many things happened around and with them that they did not know..

Thanks for your perspective.
Cheers
 
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richarde1605

Senior Member
I view it as both a projector and a recorder.

Does anybody remember irony?


Not taking the piss, just having fun. I know the poets would be upset if I compared photos. (are they photos?) or NEF or RAW or JPEG, to their body of work, neither real or unreal, the end justifies the means, and by the by just how much dodging was done in the darkroom?
 

jrleo33

Senior Member
Unfortunately, the very best digital sensor made will not capture the detail or colors that the human eye can see. This is why post production is necessary. All that’s left of the past after it is gone is a photo or video, which provide sweet memories.
 
What about film? Is it any better?


Or are we left with the perspective of own eyes? And the lies that they tell.........


having developed more film than anyone else on this forum probably (I managed and owned photo labs) I think you can go a lot farther with Digital than you could ever go with film. Post processing when learned properly can give you what you see in your mind when you took the photo.
 

weebee

Senior Member
I view cameras as thieves. They steal tiny slices of time and hold them captive in a plastic box. Some are selfishly hoarded, some are happily shared. All have a purpose in some way. Even the bad ones. Am I profound today or what?!
 

richarde1605

Senior Member
Thanks Don, I don't want to manipulate the images so much, as just capture that fleeting, space in time, you had to be there.
No amount of CG and PP can replace my imagination.
 

richarde1605

Senior Member
I view cameras as thieves. They steal tiny slices of time and hold them captive in a plastic box. Some are selfishly hoarded, some are happily shared. All have a purpose in some way. Even the bad ones. Am I profound today or what?!

Clever you are, some are not!
 

richarde1605

Senior Member
having developed more film than anyone else on this forum probably (I managed and owned photo labs) I think you can go a lot farther with Digital than you could ever go with film. Post processing when learned properly can give you what you see in your mind when you took the photo.


Thank f@%k you didn't go down the tubes with Kodak, yes it is a digital world, but we don't need to make it all up......


Peace all
 
Thank f@%k you didn't go down the tubes with Kodak, yes it is a digital world, but we don't need to make it all up......


Peace all

Not making it up. Just trying to get on paper what I saw in my mind. And I do get pretty close. There is no way that a camera today without assistance can produce what the scene really looks like.


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Dave_W

The Dude
What about film? Is it any better?


Or are we left with the perspective of own eyes? And the lies that they tell.........

Nothing you see and nothing you capture on film/sensor can be the truth. All captured views will be censored by the lack of inclusion and exclusion, hence all recorded views are lies. Moreover, the viewer will see only that which his/her experiences will allow as a result all views are lies and all viewers are liars. But yet somehow we all "endeavor to persevere"
 

co2jae

Senior Member
Nothing you see and nothing you capture on film/sensor can be the truth. All captured views will be censored by the lack of inclusion and exclusion, hence all recorded views are lies. Moreover, the viewer will see only that which his/her experiences will allow as a result all views are lies and all viewers are liars. But yet somehow we all "endeavor to persevere"


I do not believe the camera can lie. It will record what is put in front of it. The manipulation of the subject matter, either before or after the recording is where the deception begins. You can include or exclude to your hearts content but the camera wil capture what is in front of it. If you choose to put a lie in front of the camera, or manipulate the image later (whether its the image itself or your minds perception of it), so be it. That is where the falseness exists, not with the camera.
 

Dave_W

The Dude
I do not believe the camera can lie. It will record what is put in front of it. The manipulation of the subject matter, either before or after the recording is where the deception begins. You can include or exclude to your hearts content but the camera wil capture what is in front of it. If you choose to put a lie in front of the camera, or manipulate the image later (whether its the image itself or your minds perception of it), so be it. That is where the falseness exists, not with the camera.

The camera cannot help but lie from the very start. The lie occurs where the image ends. Unless you have the entire, complete and total image of everything at that single given time, it is by default, a lie. After that, everything else, PP, additional cropping, etc., continues the lie
 
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