sensor problem on d850, over red

[brazilianguy]

I feel like i woke up from a nightmare, after 3 years I found out that my pictures are rendering in a redish way.
I always asked myself why when using green filters my camera is rendering better colors?
I always thought it was either my old lens takumar which was the only one lens I had all this time or it was me as the wrongfully operator of this d850 camera.
Now that I just bought a Nikon 24 70 which is a high end lens and comparing with other pictures of grass, green and wild stuff I stumble upon seeing my pictures are definitely reddish.
I found in some forum that it could be a sensor malfunction.
Please take a look on the picture which is my backyard.
The following is a couple of links of d850 with a nikon 2.8 24 70 lens
https://flic.kr/p/2nsmFTH https://flic.kr/p/2q33iu9

 

[brazilianguy]

The backyard picture was taken in SD profile whit everything configured as if the cameras was coming straight from factory settings.

 

[Needa]

The backyard picture was taken in SD profile whit everything configured as if the cameras was coming straight from factory settings.

You white balance here is not set to auto but sunny. To me it looks a little green, see the block on the building to the left seems to have a green tint and I would expect It to look closer to gray. You cant reliably use the top two photos for comparison you have no idea how they were processed. The best way to tell would be to shoot a gray card or color checker and check the RGB readings of the the gray and white patches to tell you where you are. Is your monitor color calibrated?

 

[brazilianguy]

the color balance was sunny. Because it is a sunny day. Probably those flickr pictures also where white balanced as sunny. No reason to do otherwise. The card color checker would be a great idea but dont have one. Maybe i could shoot a perfectly white piece of paper.

 

[brazilianguy]

dont need to be too technical here guys, just comparing those two good first images to my backyard ... my backyard colors look terribly wrong.

 

[Needa]

Maybe i could shoot a perfectly white piece of paper.

Paper is not ideal it can be various shades and brightness, too reflective is a problem.

the color balance was sunny. Because it is a sunny day. Probably those flickr pictures also where white balanced as sunny. No reason to do otherwise.

No EXIF for first image.
The 2nd image. Light Source - Cloudy

my backyard colors look terribly wrong.

White balance of original image.

After in program white balance.
Here is your image after some sharpening,color saturation and local contrast.

Give the auto white balance a try it is pretty good most of the time. Are you doing post processing or shooting in camera JPEG?

 

[brazilianguy]

Paper is not ideal it can be various shades and brightness, too reflective is a problem.


No EXIF for first image.
The 2nd image. Light Source - Cloudy


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White balance of original image.
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After in program white balance.
Here is your image after some sharpening,color saturation and local contrast.
View attachment 410749

Give the auto white balance a try it is pretty good most of the time. Are you doing post processing or shooting in camera JPEG?

 

[brazilianguy]

you said : after some sharpening,color saturation and local contrast.
It still looks like garbage. Am i the only one that sees that the backyard picture even after treatment still looks like garbage?

 

[Woodyg3]

you said : after some sharpening,color saturation and local contrast.
It still looks like garbage. Am i the only one that sees that the backyard picture even after treatment still looks like garbage?

Do you want help, or do you want to argue?

It's a white balance issue. Use your processing software to fix the issue with pictures already taken. Use auto white balance in your camera to get acceptable results in most situations, or do some work to make exact adjustments to white balance when you shoot if you so desire.

 

[brazilianguy]

Do you want help, or do you want to argue?

It's a white balance issue. Use your processing software to fix the issue with pictures already taken. Use auto white balance in your camera to get acceptable results in most situations, or do some work to make exact adjustments to white balance when you shoot if you so desire.

Look I have 20 years taking pictures and had a dozen cameras before. IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE. If you cannot see that there is a HUGE difference in dynamic range between the backyard picture and the other pictures than dont help me. Of course is not a balance issue.

 

[brazilianguy]

Do you want help, or do you want to argue?

It's a white balance issue. Use your processing software to fix the issue with pictures already taken. Use auto white balance in your camera to get acceptable results in most situations, or do some work to make exact adjustments to white balance when you shoot if you so desire.

if it were a balance issue than take the backyard picture and try to fix the colors in photoshop.

 

[Woodyg3]

Look I have 20 years taking pictures and had a dozen cameras before. IT IS NOT A BALANCE ISSUE. If you cannot see that there is a HUGE difference in dynamic range between the backyard picture and the other pictures than dont help me. Of course is not a balance issue.

Cool. I won't help you.

Have a great day.

 

[Marilynne]

Play nice guys!

 

[brazilianguy]

Paper is not ideal it can be various shades and brightness, too reflective is a problem.


No EXIF for first image.
The 2nd image. Light Source - Cloudy


View attachment 410747
White balance of original image.
View attachment 410748
After in program white balance.
Here is your image after some sharpening,color saturation and local contrast.
View attachment 410749

Give the auto white balance a try it is pretty good most of the time. Are you doing post processing or shooting in camera JPEG?

do you agree that even after retouching it doesnt get nothing similar to those gorgeous flickr pictures?

 

[blackstar]

I see the first two pictures have nice scenes. But I wouldn't say I like the colors, they are not natural. As for the backyard picture, it looks just like a trash scene anyway.

 

[BF Hammer]

I have been trying to understand your question here. It is difficult because you are comparing your color in your photo to some other photos taken by 2 other photographers.

Color is not a static thing. It is subjective to the person looking at it. Add to that that about 10% of the male population has some amount of color blindness. It is changed by decisions made in the camera menu and in post processing. The color profile can be selected in camera, and the white balance of course is going to shift the color.

Your backyard photo actually looks like normal Nikon SD color profile. The greens get more subdued, which is typically more accurate to what I see live most times. The shadows look like it was closer to mid-day, which also makes color look more flat. It is a leading reason best photos are taken early morning or late-day. You could change to Vivid color. To my eyes the color in the photos you did not take have been artificially punched-up and stopped just short of looking like a cartoon.

So make some changes if you want bright greens. It does not look like a broken camera to me. Use auto white balance, it tends to be accurate and won't miss by much when it does. Set color profile to something other than SD. Profiles can also be downloaded to camera and also customized yourself. There is a website with many dozens of Nikon profiles to play with. Some people worked hard at recreating what Fuji does with their color profiles built-in.

 

[BF Hammer]

Another thought: you mention only using some other lens and noticing a change switching to a 24-70mm Nikon lens. That often changes colors too. It is part of the "vintage look" people talk about with using old lenses. Pre-digital lenses have different optical coating treatments. I have photos from 15 years ago where I could name the lens used just looking at the shades of green in the leaves. I have since gone to all-modern lenses and color is more consistent.