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    Re: Fill flash and long lenses

    If you are shooting birds landing on a feeding spot you have lots of options. Full manual on exposure, keeping iso low enough for your quality requirements adjust the exposure to the background is 1-2 stops underexposed without flash then use Fill flash, (Matrix metering, iTTL with the flash off camera a bit closer to the landing spot using wireless flash controllers such as the Yongnuo 622 transceivers and a camera shoe mounted 622 tx or 622 transceivers (the Tx master controller is easier to adjust power on the fly). This assures proper exposure while relying on the very short flash duration to freeze wing movement. You can go pretty low in shutter speed on a tripod so you can use lower ISO. If you use too much basic camera sensitivity(too slow plus higher ISO you can get ghosting but easy to fix by dropping ISO so the background is not as highly exposed. Fill flash using Matrix metering works great for this type of shot. If you use Spot metering, Fill Flash is turned off and it becomes straight TTL. The flash metering and camera metering in Matrix are independent with the whole scene metered by the camera body and the flash metering will be the subject, so you have independent control of overall scene/background vs subject exposure. One of the most important reasons to choose Nikon over the lesser brands S and C.
    You can also do this with shoe mounted flash but getting the flash closer to the subject you can use lower power and get a better incident angle of light on the subject, plus the shadows cast could be positioned out of the frame. Another good reason to invest in a good cheap iTTL capable wireless flash controller. A transmitter and receiver/transceiver is only $99 combined but one of the best returns on investment in photography.


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  2. #12
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    Re: Fill flash and long lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by spb_stan View Post
    If you are shooting birds landing on a feeding spot you have lots of options. Full manual on exposure, keeping iso low enough for your quality requirements adjust the exposure to the background is 1-2 stops underexposed without flash then use Fill flash, (Matrix metering, iTTL with the flash off camera a bit closer to the landing spot using wireless flash controllers such as the Yongnuo 622 transceivers and a camera shoe mounted 622 tx or 622 transceivers (the Tx master controller is easier to adjust power on the fly). This assures proper exposure while relying on the very short flash duration to freeze wing movement. You can go pretty low in shutter speed on a tripod so you can use lower ISO. If you use too much basic camera sensitivity(too slow plus higher ISO you can get ghosting but easy to fix by dropping ISO so the background is not as highly exposed. Fill flash using Matrix metering works great for this type of shot. If you use Spot metering, Fill Flash is turned off and it becomes straight TTL. The flash metering and camera metering in Matrix are independent with the whole scene metered by the camera body and the flash metering will be the subject, so you have independent control of overall scene/background vs subject exposure. One of the most important reasons to choose Nikon over the lesser brands S and C.
    You can also do this with shoe mounted flash but getting the flash closer to the subject you can use lower power and get a better incident angle of light on the subject, plus the shadows cast could be positioned out of the frame. Another good reason to invest in a good cheap iTTL capable wireless flash controller. A transmitter and receiver/transceiver is only $99 combined but one of the best returns on investment in photography.
    Much food for thought, thank you. I already have a YN 622TX with several YN 622RX and was planning just what you suggest. Placing the flash on a stand close to the landing zone and using a tripod, slow shutter speeds and a remote to get low ISO. What I'm looking for here is some suggestions for using fill flash with a MagMod on a long (500mm) lens in a more mobile situation.
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  3. #13
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    Re: Fill flash and long lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by canuck257 View Post
    How do you guys get 1/320* shutter speed on the D500? Mine only goes up to 1/250s (Auto FP). Am I missing something???
    No, I made a mistake....you are correct. The setting I am using is 1/250s. Sorry for the confusion.
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