YN622N-TX Shooting Menu Setting D7xxx

todd7500

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When using the YN622N-TX Wireless Flash Controller on the hot shoe (In my case, D7500 but I imagine same with other D7xxx) what in camera menu settings Flash Control settings should be used?

From the Photo Shooting Menu > Flash Control > Group Flash Options > Built-in flash > Mode ???

If I understand correctly, the YN622N-TX will take control of the Flash Triggers (2) YN622N II and they will perform according to the settings on the TX controller. So witch "Mode" in camera, properly communicates to the YN622N-TX?

Not that it matters but I am using a pair of SB-800s

Ive looked at all a bunch of videos and they all tell you how to work the Yongnuo stuff but not so much the Nikon end!
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
When using the YN622N-TX Wireless Flash Controller on the hot shoe (In my case, D7500 but I imagine same with other D7xxx) what in camera menu settings Flash Control settings should be used?

From the Photo Shooting Menu > Flash Control > Group Flash Options > Built-in flash > Mode ???

If I understand correctly, the YN622N-TX will take control of the Flash Triggers (2) YN622N II and they will perform according to the settings on the TX controller. So witch "Mode" in camera, properly communicates to the YN622N-TX?

Not that it matters but I am using a pair of SB-800s

Ive looked at all a bunch of videos and they all tell you how to work the Yongnuo stuff but not so much the Nikon end!
I've never needed to work with those settings, I believe they're all related to the on-board flash. To use your Yongnuo triggers you just mount the transmitter on the hotshoe, attach the triggers on the SB-800's and assign each flash a group/channel. Once everything is connected, you control flash output and such from the transmitter.

What works for me is putting all my flash units in TTL mode. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, putting the flashes are in TTL mode to manually control their output off-camera, but once I learned that trick using my Yongnuo flashes off-camera got a whooole lot easier.
 
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canuck257

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I just woke up from my winter hibernation:confused: and found this thread.

Paul, do I inderstand correctly that you set ALL the individual flash units to TTL? Then use the YN622-TX to set channels 1, 2, 3 to M and set the output power of each flash on the TX screen?
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I just woke up from my winter hibernation:confused: and found this thread.

Paul, do I inderstand correctly that you set ALL the individual flash units to TTL? Then use the YN622-TX to set channels 1, 2, 3 to M and set the output power of each flash on the TX screen?
In short, yes; that's how I setup my off-camera flash for complete manual control. All the flashes are set to use TTL Mode. Each flash has a trigger attached of course and each trigger is assigned a Channel and Group. I then use the Controller (the TX) in Manual Mode to program the output of each flash... 1:1, 1:16, 1:128 etc. from the camera's hot-shoe.

This probably sounds counter-intuitive (it certainly did to me, what with the flashes themselves being in TTL Mode) but it works perfectly.
 

canuck257

Senior Member
In short, yes; that's how I setup my off-camera flash for complete manual control. All the flashes are set to use TTL Mode. Each flash has a trigger attached of course and each trigger is assigned a Channel and Group. I then use the Controller (the TX) in Manual Mode to program the output of each flash... 1:1, 1:16, 1:128 etc. from the camera's hot-shoe.

This probably sounds counter-intuitive (it certainly did to me, what with the flashes themselves being in TTL Mode) but it works perfectly.

Thank you Paul that resolves one of the many frustratating questions that I have about using flash. For some unknown reason I find using speedlights very daunting.

I understand that using a light meter to measure flash output does not work with these triggers because of a pre-flash. Have you come across this problem and have you found a solution?
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
Thank you Paul that resolves one of the many frustratating questions that I have about using flash. For some unknown reason I find using speedlights very daunting.
I'm glad it helped. My Yongnuo flashes were driving me nuts until I stumbled on that solution.

My suggestion for off-camera is to simply NOT use TTL. Just... Don't. It's sooooo much easier working with OCF when your speedlights/exposure is done is full manual. If you haven't already found the Strobist website and the excellent tutorials for using off-camera flash, drop everything and start with Lighting 101. This will get you up and running. Since it sounds like you have the required kit you can ignore the equipment suggestions and get down to setting up and using the flashes in Manual Mode. Apologies if you've already found this site and put it to use.

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I understand that using a light meter to measure flash output does not work with these triggers because of a pre-flash. Have you come across this problem and have you found a solution?
I believe there is more than one solution but I do know one in particular is to use the FV lock on your camera. You meter the shot using TTL then the manual output can be adjusted on the Controller and the speedlights then fire without a pre-flash. I'm a little unclear on how to do that, step-by-step, because I don't use a meter. I should probably get one but I can get exposure dialed in using a couple test shots so I've not dropped dime for a proper meter just yet.

Oh, and of course you can avoid this whole pre-flash issue by NOT using TTL.. :)
 
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canuck257

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I've got a shoot coming up on Sunday, photographing the local kids in our community hall with the "Easter Bunny". I plan on using two YN568's on 2 YN622N II's with a YN622-TX on my D810. I am definitely going manual, every other option sounds TOOOO complicated.

Thanks for all your input, it does make me feel more confident.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I've got a shoot coming up on Sunday, photographing the local kids in our community hall with the "Easter Bunny". I plan on using two YN568's on 2 YN622N II's with a YN622-TX on my D810. I am definitely going manual, every other option sounds TOOOO complicated.
That's a solid setup that just so happens to mirror my own. Well, I'm slowly converting over to Godox but I'm holding on to my Yongnuo gear while that's happening... But anyway, back to your situation: Put your flashes in TTL, put the TX in Manual, take a few shots to drill down the exposure and *BAM*... You're good to go.

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Thanks for all your input, it does make me feel more confident.
Glad I could help. You know you got this!
 

canuck257

Senior Member
It worked as you suggested Paul at least, the customers appeared to be happy. I'm not sure I got the exposure balance and light positions correct though. Main light was high at 8 o'clock set for f8. Fill was at 5 o'clock, eye level set for f5.6. Camera was set at 250 sec. f8 ISO 100. Both speed lights were in soft boxes. What do you think?

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Horoscope Fish

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It worked as you suggested Paul at least, the customers appeared to be happy. I'm not sure I got the exposure balance and light positions correct though. Main light was high at 8 o'clock set for f8. Fill was at 5 o'clock, eye level set for f/5.6. Camera was set at 250 sec. f/8 ISO 100. Both speed lights were in soft boxes. What do you think?
The exposure looks quite good to me. That rabbit is creeping me out, hard, but that's beside the point. As for the look of your lighting I'd say it's a little flat, personally, but's that's just my opinion and it's certainly not tragic. We could go 'round and 'round for days deconstructing your lighting setup and I'm not really up for that. In short, think it's a good, clean and well-executed shot that, in my opinion, has some room for improvement.

I do notice the shutter speed for this shot was 1/250 so I feel compelled to point out the D7500 has a "native" synch speed of 1/200. You can use High Speed Synch (HSS), what Nikon calls "Auto FP" in the Custom Settings menu, but that's a very different animal and it certainly wouldn't be needed for a shot of this nature. So, while I have managed to get away with using 1/250 shutter speed (without engaging Auto FP) on occasion, I suggest you get in the habit of using a shutter speed of 1/200 or slower when using flash.
 
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canuck257

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The exposure looks quite good to me. That rabbit is creeping me out, hard, but that's beside the point. As for the look of your lighting I'd say it's a little flat, personally, but's that's just my opinion and it's certainly not tragic. We could go 'round and 'round for days deconstructing your lighting setup and I'm not really up for that. In short, think it's a good, clean and well-executed shot that, in my opinion, has some room for improvement.

I do notice the shutter speed for this shot was 1/250 so I feel compelled to point out the D7500 has a "native" synch speed of 1/200. You can use High Speed Synch (HSS), what Nikon calls "Auto FP" in the Custom Settings menu, but that's a very different animal and it certainly wouldn't be needed for a shot of this nature. So, while I have managed to get away with using 1/250 shutter speed (without engaging Auto FP) on occasion, I suggest you get in the habit of using a shutter speed of 1/200 or slower when using flash.


Again, my thank's Paul. I have now overcome my initial reluctance to try off camera flash with this "baptism of fire". The community asked me and I was pleased though nervous to help. Your input made things much easier for me and feedback from the community indicates that it worked to their satisfaction.

I will now start playing with lamp positions and appropriate shutter speeds. I agree that these are a little "flat" but overall, I'm pleased.:)
 

Prefrosh01

Senior Member
I recently acquired a Yongnuo YN622N-TX to go with my pair of YN622N transceivers and YN568EX flashes.

I followed the advice on this thread (setting the flashes to i-TTL) but the flashes do not adjust to the settings I input on the YN622N-TX.

I know the YN622N-TX is communicating with the transceivers due to the test button firing the flashes.

I am am hoping that someone can help me figure out what may be going on.

Thanks in advance!
Matt
 

canuck257

Senior Member
I recently acquired a Yongnuo YN622N-TX to go with my pair of YN622N transceivers and YN568EX flashes.

I followed the advice on this thread (setting the flashes to i-TTL) but the flashes do not adjust to the settings I input on the YN622N-TX.

I know the YN622N-TX is communicating with the transceivers due to the test button firing the flashes.

I am am hoping that someone can help me figure out what may be going on.

Thanks in advance!
Matt

Like you I struggle with comprehending flash and the Nikon system of controlling it.

I believe that adjustments made on the TX do affect the RX/flash correctly provided one of the three channels on the TX is set to TTL but, those adjustments do NOT appear on the flash screen.
 

Prefrosh01

Senior Member
Ivan,

Thank you for the quick reply!

It baffles me as to why it does not change the display on the actual flashes, but I guess that must be the way Nikons work with Yongnuo.

While doing some research on this I found videos where the flash display did change when adjustments were made, but that must have been on a Canon.

I hope to get some time in tomorrow to test everything again!
 

cwgrizz

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If I remember correctly it doesn't change on the screen until after the shot has been taken. The TX does control it. Play with the power settings on the TX and I think you will see the difference in the photos.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I recently acquired a Yongnuo YN622N-TX to go with my pair of YN622N transceivers and YN568EX flashes.

I followed the advice on this thread (setting the flashes to i-TTL) but the flashes do not adjust to the settings I input on the YN622N-TX.

I know the YN622N-TX is communicating with the transceivers due to the test button firing the flashes.

I am am hoping that someone can help me figure out what may be going on.

Thanks in advance!
Matt
Do you have Auto-ISO enabled?
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I do believe that Auto-ISO is enabled, but I am shooting in Manual mode and set it myself. Will that have an impact when using these?
Well if I understand you correctly what you're saying is the exposure adjustments you are making on the 622-TX are not affecting the flash output, i.e. you reduce exposure by two-stops on the TX but when you review the shot the exposure does not appear to have been reduced by two stops. If that's the case, I'm wondering if Auto-ISO may be increasing the brightness of the shot. I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "... and set it myself", however. When you say "it" are you referring to Auto-ISO?

I suggest you turn off Auto-ISO and dial in a specific ISO manually, say ISO 200, and see if this resolves the settings issue you're having.
 

Prefrosh01

Senior Member
Paul,

Thank you for all the advice/suggestions as I try to work through this. Looking back at what I had typed, I don't think I made it as clear as I could have been and for that I apologize.

My main question was that when I make an adjustment on the YN622N-TX controller, it was not reflected on the display of the YN568EX flash. After I found the video posted by Tim, it cleared that up.

In the post you quoted above, I was trying to state that I am shooting in Manual and setting the ISO 400 (for example).

I appreciate all the help and guidance you provide on the forum!
 
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