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  1. #11
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer
    Quote Originally Posted by STM View Post
    Are you talking about a catchlight or "red-eye"?
    I guess you might call it red-eye.
    This was shot in semi darkness, so the effect is more extreme than if the flash is used for a bit of fill lighting.
    The bird was about 30 meters from the camera from memory, the image is cropped.
    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_0889.jpg


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  2. #12
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer
    Here are a few other photos I took with the Better Beamer.
    The settings are all different because I was experimenting, trying to learn what it could do.
    I didnt really stick with it long enough to become good at using it. One day I will have another try with it, it has got potential.

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_1274-version-2.jpg

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_1311-version-2.jpg

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_1493-version-3.jpg
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  3. #13
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    I guess you might call it red-eye.
    This was shot in semi darkness, so the effect is more extreme than if the flash is used for a bit of fill lighting.
    The bird was about 30 meters from the camera from memory, the image is cropped.
    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_0889.jpg
    Yeah, that is pretty annoying, though it can be easily fixed in PS
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  4. #14
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    So I'm just going down this route myself. I have a spot in my garden that is in shade and late afternoon when the birds come to drink, without flash it's hard to do better than ISO 2000 and 1/40 shutter...way too slow for birds

    So I'm currently experimenting... and not doing very well
    Vixen
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    Nikkor 105mm macro lens
    Tamron 18-270mm zoom
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    Tokina 12-24mm wide angle

  5. #15
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Hi Vixen, I have had a BB for a while now. I had a lot of disappointment with mine early on, I was trying to make it do all the work. I still dont have much luck getting great photos with it if the light is too low. I live in a valley with lots of trees, so even in the middle of the day, I am trying to shoot birds in the shade.

    I get my best results if I use it for fill-light on the bird or butterfly etc rather than trying to light the whole scene. Ideally, I set the camera on 1/200th shutter, f8, and vary the iso to get the correct exposure ( or slightly underexposed ) for the background, then set the flash on anywhere from 1/16 to 1/4 to get some fill light on the subject. It has taken me a lot of practice to start getting some decent results , I now use it most of the time I go for a walkaround with the long lens.

    One other thing is to make sure you have it aligned to your lens, if it is shooting a bit high or low, you wont get the most benefit from it. I shoot mine at a brick wall to make sure its aligned before I set off on my walk. Zoom your lens out to the shortest focal length and fire it at the wall, check the photo on the back screen, the flash should be lighting the centre of the frame, if it is, once you zoom out it will light the entire frame.
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    Brad


    Every Day might not be a good Day,
    ​ but there is something good in every Day.

  6. #16
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer
    Thanks Brad, I'll try that with the brick wall

    I actually didn't do too badly today as it happens. Still plenty of room for improvement but better than I thought I'd done. I

    think I had flash at 1/2, so I'll try it back at 1/4 tomorrow and see how that goes.

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-017_7938_web.jpg

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-017_7929_web.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    Hi Vixen, I have had a BB for a while now. I had a lot of disappointment with mine early on, I was trying to make it do all the work. I still dont have much luck getting great photos with it if the light is too low. I live in a valley with lots of trees, so even in the middle of the day, I am trying to shoot birds in the shade.

    I get my best results if I use it for fill-light on the bird or butterfly etc rather than trying to light the whole scene. Ideally, I set the camera on 1/200th shutter, f8, and vary the iso to get the correct exposure ( or slightly underexposed ) for the background, then set the flash on anywhere from 1/16 to 1/4 to get some fill light on the subject. It has taken me a lot of practice to start getting some decent results , I now use it most of the time I go for a walkaround with the long lens.

    One other thing is to make sure you have it aligned to your lens, if it is shooting a bit high or low, you wont get the most benefit from it. I shoot mine at a brick wall to make sure its aligned before I set off on my walk. Zoom your lens out to the shortest focal length and fire it at the wall, check the photo on the back screen, the flash should be lighting the centre of the frame, if it is, once you zoom out it will light the entire frame.
    Vixen
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    Nikon D80 and Nikon D7100
    Nikkor 18-55mm & Nikkor 70-200mm kit lenses
    Nikkor 105mm macro lens
    Tamron 18-270mm zoom
    Tamron 150-600mm zoom
    Tokina 12-24mm wide angle

  7. #17
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    Re: Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer

    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer
    Heres one I took recently, the trees in the background were lit by the afternoon sun which was behind me, but the Kookaburra was shaded by the tree I was standing under. I exposed for the trees in the background and used the beamer to put some fill light on the Kooka.
    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_1314-1.jpg
    Without the beamer this shot wouldnt have been really possible, I would have had to overexpose the background, and raise the iso to get the bird exposed, the image probably wouldnt have been useable.

    Heres another recent one using the beamer...
    Fill flash with long lenses and the Better Beamer-dsc_2393.jpg
    I also posted this shot here- https://nikonites.com/wild-life/4004...#axzz4sS4h5kax
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    Brad


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    ​ but there is something good in every Day.





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