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    D3200 Speedlight for Close/WideAngle nightclub photography?

    D3200 Speedlight for Close/WideAngle nightclub photography?
    Hi there .. I've done pretty well at nightclub photography with the kit lens, onboard flash, and a screw-on 0.5x wide angle adapter, but its time to move up a level.

    My typical shots at the moment are F3.5, 1/4th second rear-curtain flash, with flash exposure compensation at about -1ev. Spin flash shots with about 45 degrees of spin before the flash. Processed with RAW tools and levels etc in Photoshop.



    Reasons for buying a speedlight are:
    1/ To eliminate the lens shadow you get from the onboard flash projecting a dark semicircle at the bottom of pics.
    2/ To replace the on-board auto-focus illuminator bulb with a less annoying red auto-focus assist light (turning the onboard AF bulb off), as it's annoying to people being very bright.

    I cannot afford to go top of the range, so I'm looking at the cheaper speedlights such as Neewer and Yongnuo.

    My main questions are:
    1/ Some flashlights say "
    Lens Coverage 18mm - 180mm" .. Sometime soon i'm gonna buy a Tokina 11-16mm, so does this mean the speedlight cannot work with a lens below 18mm at all?
    2/ Some descriptions say "Front Curtain Sync" .. but I need the speed light to work with Rear curtain sync .. do all speedlights work with my typical rear-flash shots using the camera's settings?
    3/ Do all these cheap speedlights have the red-light method of auto-focus illumination, so I can switch the camera's white light bulb off?

    So I'm looking at the Neewer NW580/VK750 - would that do it? Or what has the Mark II version got which the Mark 1 has not?

    Any help or recommendations appreciated as I don't know anything about speedlights at the moment.
    Cheers,
    Chris
    All my club photography here, just over a years experience at it and learned a lot: Club Nights Photography | Flite Media



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    Last edited by sOnIc; 11-17-2016 at 10:01 PM.
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    Re: D3200 Speedlight for Close/WideAngle nightclub photography?

    D3200 Speedlight for Close/WideAngle nightclub photography?
    Answering some of my own questions ..

    The 18mm thing I guess is just the width/height distribution of the light, and I'm not bothered about less flash lighting around the edges; in fact that vignetting makes the pics better in the case of my wide-angle adapter .. so as long as the flash can be set to 18mm while the camera is actually at 11mm, then that's ok.

    This picture says a lot, I don't want a big object sitting on top the camera at all really, so small size is very important.


    So atm its looking like the Altura, which is cheap and comes with a bag and diffuser. EDIT: Can't seem to get them direct in the UK ! Might have to order one in ..
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    Last edited by sOnIc; 11-18-2016 at 02:07 AM.
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    Re: D3200 Speedlight for Close/WideAngle nightclub photography?

    I'm refining what I need, but still after advice please ?!

    I need a wide AF-Assist beam, I need to turn the white light AF-assist bulb off, but I use matrix AF metering which has a wide field of focus points, so I need the red beam to cover a fairly wide area. Note that this is pretty much my reason for getting a speed-light, because the white light AF bulb blinds people when your close, its really annoying.

    The other priority for me is that I want the smallest speed-light I can get, most of them are huge! I love the small size of my D3200 and want a very low profile speed-light for it, also I'd rather the light came from lower down; not high above the line of sight.

    I think I'm gonna be happy using manual mode, so I can set the zoom to either 18mm for wide coverage, or have the option of zooming the flash in; without touching the lens; to get a smaller flash area. I shoot 18mm all the time, though its actually 9mm cus of the 0.5x wide-angle adaptor.

    So I'm looking at the Viltrox JY-610N II, super cheep, but none of the sellers even mention the AF-beam. Is this flash going to support rear-curtain sync? It has no backlight on the screen but a "unique feature in manual mode: the GN of the flash unit can be adjusted by adjusting the EV on the cameras" which is nice! No flash zoom either.

    Another thing, the recycle time on the above says 1-4secs, and I use -1ev flash compensation at the moment, so I assume the lower flash power means a faster recycle time? As long as its not over 3 secs I'm happy I think.

    So, any ideas on whats gonna be my perfect speedlight?
    Last edited by sOnIc; 01-09-2017 at 08:13 AM.
    New D3200 (previously a D50), 18-55 VR kit lens, 70-300 Nikkor, Manfrotto tripod, lots of accessories, Photoshop CC.
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