Yongnuo Flash Owners - Request

WhiteLight

Senior Member
This is more of an information request thread... Lot of people here own the famous Yongnuo flashes, it would be great to hear from them.
If you could post which model you have, what it does well and what isn't all that great.. And maybe why you chose your particular model over the other Yongnuo models and perhaps even over the SB700.
I have been contemplating getting a second flash to compliment the SB700 but not really sure which model of Yongnuo would be better... And if it would be the right way to go as opposed to a second SB700.
Quite sure a lot of members here will like to see this info..
Thank you

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WhiteLight

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Haha.. Sorry.. I should mean FAMOUS..
Thanks to the auto predict from the mobile keypad.. I think I was intending to 'swype' useful or something close :)

Edit: corrected the fatal flaw :)

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Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I have a Yongnuo 468-II but I don't do anything fancy with my flash, so my needs are simple. I do bounce flash but that's about as sophisticated as I get with my flash unit. All that being said, the '468-II has been easy to use and certainly powerful enough for my needs. It's a TTL flash, but not "iTTL". If I was going to buy a Yongnuo flash again I'd probably opt for the 568ex, which is iTTL, but the 468-II is holding me over just fine for now.

I chose it over the SB-700 primarily because $325 seems a little outrageous for a flash unit.

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WhiteLight

Senior Member
I have a Yongnuo 468-II but I don't do anything fancy with my flash, so my needs are simple. I do bounce flash but that's about as sophisticated as I get with my flash unit. All that being said, the '468-II has been easy to use and certainly powerful enough for my needs. It's a TTL flash, but not "iTTL". If I was going to buy a Yongnuo flash again I'd probably opt for the 568ex, which is iTTL, but the 468-II is holding me over just fine for now.

I chose it over the SB-700 primarily because $325 seems a little outrageous for a flash unit.

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Thanks Paul.. I've read some people stating that the flash output is not consistent at times.. Could that be user fault?
And the differences between the models are purely ttl and non ttl along with the variations in power or are there any other note worthy factors?
I have quite seriously been thinking of the 568ex

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Haha.. Sorry.. I should mean FAMOUS..
Thanks to the auto predict from the mobile keypad.. I think I was intending to 'swype' useful or something close :)

Edit: corrected the fatal flaw :)

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Horoscope Fish

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I've read some people stating that the flash output is not consistent at times.. Could that be user fault?
I have not noticed any inconsistencies in the output personally. Could it be pilot error? Personally that would be the first thing I would look at. There ARE a lot of settings someone could play with and then, not realizing what they've done, get "inconsistent" results.


And the differences between the models are purely ttl and non ttl along with the variations in power or are there any other note worthy factors?
Well first off know there is "TTL", "iTTL" and "Non-TTL"; the differences between the three are important to understand but I'm going to let you research that yourself because I can't really explain it well I don't think. That being said, the 568ex does have more power than the 468-II but don't ask me to specify, "how much" or ask, "is it worth it" because I don't know the answer to either of those questions.

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John P

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I have 3 YN560II , and 1 YN560
All have been great. No problems at all.
Trigger great with the camera flash on commander mode.
I have an SB800 for TTL work. But very seldom use it.
 

WayneF

Senior Member
All that being said, the '468-II has been easy to use and certainly powerful enough for my needs. It's a TTL flash, but not "iTTL"..

FWIW, if it does automatic TTL on a current Nikon DSLR, it definitely is always iTTL. Nothing else can work. Todays Nikon digital camera only does iTTL.

What the 468 seems to do is TTL instead of TTL BL metering mode (which the camera meters this way, the flash does not meter it, but apparently some flash firmware triggers one mode and some the other). In contrast, the 565 does TTL BL on Nikon. These two work differently (that is to say, the camera meters them differently).

(I do know better than to continue, since no one today wants to know anything, but I tend to enjoy details)


History has made the terms be really confusing, TTL has at least three meanings now.

Meanings in this way:

For Nikon: (Canon has different names and different systems)

TTL means Through The Lens metering. not necessarily even flash metering. It is a general term, meaning meter sees the same view and area that the lens sees. For flash, it also means automatic point&shoot flash.

Film camera TTL was this automatic metered flash system, metered though lens (as opposed say to Manual flash mode).

First Digital models (D1, D2, etc) required big changes, called D-TTL

Subsequent digital models revised and improved and now do iTTL.

All are different, all are incompatible with each other. All are automatically metered flash, all are generally called TTL (Through The Lens metering), but film TTL, and D-TTL and iTTL are all very different and incompatible systems.

But yes, current iTTL digital does generic TTL Through the Lens metering of flash.

In fact, iTTL TTL has two metering modes, TTL and TTL BL (metering is done by the Nikon DSLR camera).

This TTL metering mode meters the flash without regard to any ambient. If in bright sun, then you get two proper exposures, sun and flash, so when added at the sensor, the subject is overexposed one stop (2x). We know to set about -1.7 EV flash compensation then, for it to turn out well. Indoors in dim light, no such concern.

TTL BL takes the bright ambient into account automatically, and in bright sun, TTL BL does that compensation automatically, and will back off the flash power maybe 2 EV, or it comes out about right automatically, without our manual compensation (called Balanced Flash). Automatic compensation (due to ambient). We can still also manually use Flash Compensation too, when necessary tp tweak exposure.

Some Nikon flashes (SB-600, SB-800, SB-900) have a menu to select TTL or TTL BL. Nikon is a TTL BL system, but a TTL menu can override. Spot Metering also overrides, changing TTL BL to be TTL.
The menus all say TTL generally, but they mean iTTL today, and may mean TTL or TTL BL.

Flashes like the SB-700 or SB-400 have no menu like that. Their TTL menu setting only causes camera to meter TTL BL by default (unless Spot Metering, which is TTL then). Also the camera internal flash TTL mode is TTL BL, also the Commander TTL menu is TTL BL (unless Spot metering, which is TTL).

So either of TTL and TTL BL (metering modes) may be selected by a TTL menu (general automatic flash) which will do iTTL (current digital DSLR).

It can get confusing, and maybe we are not interested, but regardless of our interest, we certainly can get very different flash results depending on this mode our flash will cause. It is good stuff to know what is going to happen. I would say that indoors, TTL BL often routinely needs +1 EV flash compensation to avoid being too dark. TTL probably does not. Either way, we have to watch, and do what we see we need to do.
 
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Ironwood

Senior Member
I've had the 568EX for 2 days now, so still learning how to drive it properly.

I am happy with it so far. I was surprised how easy it was to just stick it on the camera and start shooting.

I bought this model because I wanted HSS, but didnt want to pay high prices. I think later on down the road I will also buy a manual yongnuo that I can use with this one.

I have a thread over in the macro forum regarding this flash and my trials with getting a diffuser to work with the flash for macro and close up shots.
 

WhiteLight

Senior Member
I've had the 568EX for 2 days now, so still learning how to drive it properly.

I am happy with it so far. I was surprised how easy it was to just stick it on the camera and start shooting.

I bought this model because I wanted HSS, but didnt want to pay high prices. I think later on down the road I will also buy a manual yongnuo that I can use with this one.

I have a thread over in the macro forum regarding this flash and my trials with getting a diffuser to work with the flash for macro and close up shots.

Have seen that thread Brad.. Impressive indeed...
Forgive my ignorance, what do you mean by 'future flash with manual'? Doesn't the 568 have controls to meter manually? Only ttl?

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Ironwood

Senior Member
Have seen that thread Brad.. Impressive indeed...
Forgive my ignorance, what do you mean by 'future flash with manual'? Doesn't the 568 have controls to meter manually? Only ttl?

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I want another flash so I can use two at once, one on either side of the lens.
​From what I understand, I can use a manual flash as a slave with my 568, but I will research this more when I get to that stage.
 

Ironwood

Senior Member
I got mine off an Australian based ebayer with a good feedback rating. A$195 & free postage, it was in my mailbox in about 5 days.

I figured if I got a bad one off a local guy, I would have better luck dealing with it than if I got one from Hong Kong or China.
 

Moab Man

Senior Member
I don't have one yet, and this thread has been useful to me. My reason for the 568EX is that high speed sinc. I hate being limited to a shutter speed of 1/250.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I am also looking to get one of these flashes, but this is my first flash (I have a vivitar 283 but have no idea how to use it (got to second hand)). so this thread and all info has been helpful to me too. Is this a good one?- Amazon.com: Yongnuo Professional Flash Speedlight Flashlight Yongnuo YN 560 III for Canon Nikon Pentax Olympus Camera / Such as: Canon EOS 1Ds Mark, EOS1D Mark, EOS 5D Mark, EOS 7D, EOS 60D, EOS 600D, EOS 550D, EOS 500D, EOS 1100D: Camera & Photo
Well it's a good flash, but it's also fully manual.

If you're totally unfamiliar with using flash units you might want to look into the Yongnuo 468-II or the Yongnuo 568ex II instead.

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Philth

Senior Member
I just started using the 468 II. Very basic photographer at this point. I am happy with it. I think of the "problems" I am having, is the same type of problems that I would have with a Nikon speedlite. The most common issue I ran into yesterday, was that I couldn't always get the right amount of light in the picture. The subjects would often be dim. This was in a typical square room with normal ceilings and a decent amount of ambient light. Flash head was at 90* and card was pulled out with flash in TTL mode. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. It's not the flash though, I have a pretty good feeling it's not.
 
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