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  1. #11
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    D850 Lens Question??
    Quote Originally Posted by Ad B View Post
    Hi,

    Disagree...
    If you use that lens in the right way and at the right spots.
    I use a Tamron 28-300 F/3.5-6.3 DI VC PZD (that's the latest version) with my D850.
    Very sharp, and in combo with my 46 Mp D850 incredible good detailing.
    It's my walk around lens, when I go without specific purposes. Like you have on holidays.
    For specific purposes I use a Tamron 24-70 F2.8 G2, some f1.8 primes or my Sigma 150-600 C.
    So to start with... To find out, which kind of photography you like, which lenses you will need...
    I would buy the Tamron, the Nikon version is more expensive, heavier, bigger.
    The only thing with after market lenses...
    If you like to use JPGs straight out of your cam...
    Auto in cam lenscorrection is not working with aftermarket lenses.
    I always use the RAW pics (NEFs)(lossless compressed) in Photoshop.
    Little example:
    Swallow tail by Ad v.d. Biggelaar, on Flickr
    Handheld, 300 mm; aprox 1.5 mtr (5 Ft) distance. Just walking in an Italian village, last summer.
    Very nice! Thanks for the great info!


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  2. #12
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@sabor View Post
    Spending that kind of money on a camera body and then putting rather inexpensive kit type lenses on won't take advantage of it's incredible abilities. A high megapixel camera really need good quality optics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ad B View Post
    Hi,

    Disagree...
    If you use that lens in the right way and at the right spots.
    I use a Tamron 28-300 F/3.5-6.3 DI VC PZD (that's the latest version) with my D850.
    Very sharp, and in combo with my 46 Mp D850 incredible good detailing.
    It's my walk around lens, when I go without specific purposes. Like you have on holidays.
    For specific purposes I use a Tamron 24-70 F2.8 G2, some f1.8 primes or my Sigma 150-600 C.
    So to start with... To find out, which kind of photography you like, which lenses you will need...
    Niffty850, I understand what Chris meant. My first DSLR was a D90. Instead of buying a new lens, I used my Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 that I previously used with my N90s (35mm film body). The lens was just okay on my D90 but was never what I'd call a stellar performer...not even on my N90s. When I upgraded to FX (a larger sensor), the pics became even more lackluster with that lens than they were on DX. The more megapixels in your camera's body, the more you need decent glass. There wasn't much of any sharpness attainable with that lens. And it was even more obvious on an FX body.

    Some cheap lenses will perform great on high megapixel bodies. Others won't. The Tamron 28-300mm gets many great reviews. I remember watching a Scott Kelby video where he uses that lens on a high end Canon body. The thing with all-in-one zooms is they can be hit or miss in their performance. Usually you will get better results with shorter focal length zooms. It's good to read up on the differences between lenses. But the Tamron does seem to be a decent lens.

    Recently I purchased a Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR lens to go with my D750. It was the kit lens for that body, but I chose not to get the lens when I bought the body. It is a fantastic lens even though it is considered to be a kit lens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad B View Post
    The only thing with after market lenses...
    If you like to use JPGs straight out of your cam...
    Auto in cam lenscorrection is not working with aftermarket lenses.
    I always use the RAW pics (NEFs)(lossless compressed) in Photoshop.
    Niffty850, Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom have a lens profile feature that can be applied to RAW images. It corrects some of the distortion that cannot be corrected with any jpeg auto correction. I just compared the Lens Correction of a jpeg in PCC with the Camera Profile of a NEF in ACR. They do not give the same results. The jpeg still had distortion. The RAW looked MUCH better. Initially you might want to start out shooting jpegs, but RAW definitely offers more correction abilities than what you can achieve with jpegs. The ability to bring back detail to blown highlights in RAW is a tremendous feature.

    Anyway...good luck with whatever you choose to do.
    Cindy
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    and My 2019 Thread

    Where the Spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art
    -- Leonardo da Vinci



  3. #13
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Niffty850, I understand what Chris meant. My first DSLR was a D90. Instead of buying a new lens, I used my Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 that I previously used with my N90s (35mm film body). The lens was just okay on my D90 but was never what I'd call a stellar performer...not even on my N90s. When I upgraded to FX (a larger sensor), the pics became even more lackluster with that lens than they were on DX. The more megapixels in your camera's body, the more you need decent glass. There wasn't much of any sharpness attainable with that lens. And it was even more obvious on an FX body.

    Some cheap lenses will perform great on high megapixel bodies. Others won't. The Tamron 28-300mm gets many great reviews. I remember watching a Scott Kelby video where he uses that lens on a high end Canon body. The thing with all-in-one zooms is they can be hit or miss in their performance. Usually you will get better results with shorter focal length zooms. It's good to read up on the differences between lenses. But the Tamron does seem to be a decent lens.

    Recently I purchased a Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR lens to go with my D750. It was the kit lens for that body, but I chose not to get the lens when I bought the body. It is a fantastic lens even though it is considered to be a kit lens.



    Niffty850, Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom have a lens profile feature that can be applied to RAW images. It corrects some of the distortion that cannot be corrected with any jpeg auto correction. I just compared the Lens Correction of a jpeg in PCC with the Camera Profile of a NEF in ACR. They do not give the same results. The jpeg still had distortion. The RAW looked MUCH better. Initially you might want to start out shooting jpegs, but RAW definitely offers more correction abilities than what you can achieve with jpegs. The ability to bring back detail to blown highlights in RAW is a tremendous feature.

    Anyway...good luck with whatever you choose to do.
    Thank you! You folks are awesome! This is exactly the kind of info that I was hoping for, as I attemp to bump my photography skills up to the next level. What an awesome community here!

  4. #14
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Recently I purchased a Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR lens to go with my D750. It was the kit lens for that body, but I chose not to get the lens when I bought the body. It is a fantastic lens even though it is considered to be a kit lens.
    I'm using that same lens on a D810 and have been pleased with it.
    D810; D7200; AF-S 24-120mm f/4G ED VR; Sigma 150-600mm C; AF-S 50mm f/1.8G; AF-S 85mm f/1.8G
    Old non-AF; 105mm f/2.5; 28mm f/2.8
    Godox V860II

  5. #15
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy W View Post
    I'm using that same lens on a D810 and have been pleased with it.
    Thanks Andy, very good to know! Im looking at that focal length as possibly for my 2nd lense. So I assume thatís an FX (full frame) lense?

  6. #16
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    Re: D850 Lense Question??

    ^ Yes
    Thanks/Like Niffty850 Thanks/liked this post
     
    D810; D7200; AF-S 24-120mm f/4G ED VR; Sigma 150-600mm C; AF-S 50mm f/1.8G; AF-S 85mm f/1.8G
    Old non-AF; 105mm f/2.5; 28mm f/2.8
    Godox V860II

  7. #17
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    Re: D850 Lens Question??

    D850 Lens Question??
    I have to stick up for the 28-300mm lens. New from Nikon it's close to $900, so a little more than a kit lens. When I'm out walking, it's my number one lens because it's so versatile. I own the "Holy Trinity" of Nikon 2.8 zooms, and a Tamzooka 150-600, yet when I was shooting surfers last year the 28-300 was the lightest and most versatile. Here's a 9.6mp crop from my D850's 46mp original:

    D850 Lens Question??-28300.jpg

  8. #18
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    Re: D850 Lens Question??

    D850 Lens Question??
    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Canyon View Post
    I have to stick up for the 28-300mm lens. New from Nikon it's close to $900, so a little more than a kit lens. When I'm out walking, it's my number one lens because it's so versatile. I own the "Holy Trinity" of Nikon 2.8 zooms, and a Tamzooka 150-600, yet when I was shooting surfers last year the 28-300 was the lightest and most versatile. Here's a 9.6mp crop from my D850's 46mp original:

    D850 Lens Question??-28300.jpg
    Very nice shot! The definition/resolution blows me away! The composition is sweet also. Thatís the lense that I ordered! Im pumped! I realize itíll take time to capture images like that, but the potential is there. Thanks for sharing!
    Last edited by Niffty850; 12-19-2018 at 10:16 PM.
    Thanks/Like Blade Canyon Thanks/liked this post
     

  9. #19
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    Re: D850 Lens Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by Niffty850 View Post
    That’s the lense that I ordered! Im pumped!
    Here's the official recommendation with commentary from Scott Kelby in the August 2017 Shutterbug (and Yes I do sharpen in PS):

    Q. I’m writing with the obligatory travel gear question. I’m taking a weeklong summer vacation to visit Rome, Florence, and Venice. I will be bringing a Canon 5D Mark III and a 24-70mm f/2.8 lens. I’m trying to travel light (want to avoid divorce at the end of the trip) and balance the need for wide-angle and close-up details of church and museum ceilings. Would either a 1.4x or 2x extender be a possible solution, or would 24mm on the wide end work? Is a 70-200mm worth bringing?


    A. First, I’m totally jealous of your trip. I’ve been to all three places and they’re some of the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. You are in for a treat! If I could take just one lens, it would be a 28-300mm. I took a Tamron 28-300mm with me to Rome and it worked wonderfully because I hate taking a second lens on vacation. With just one lens, you don’t even have to carry a camera bag around with you at all (I leave it in the hotel room), which makes the trip that much better. That one lens gives me everything I need, from wide to normal to long, and it’s small, very lightweight, and affordable (B&H has it for around $599). It’s not super sharp—just “okay”—but if you sharpen your images later in Photoshop or Lightroom, then it looks like a $2,500 lens. If you take the 24-70mm and the 70-200mm, which is a great combination, you’re taking two very heavy, very large lenses and a camera bag. Yes, they’re better for low-light situations, and they’re both very sharp lenses, but now you’re on vacation with a very heavy camera bag in tow. If I’m just there to shoot photos, I’d lug the gear. If I’m on vacation and want to enjoy the vacation and take photos, I’d go with the Tamron (just speaking from experience and many family vacations that I really enjoyed by going light).

    Read more at https://www.shutterbug.com/content/q...9hxAT6xdBXJ.99


    Stay pumped! You will be happy with that lens, and it will help you realize what else you need later. (And most likely what you will need later is MORE LIGHT after being frustrated in a low-light situation, so then get your 2.8s or 1.4s.)
    Last edited by Blade Canyon; 12-20-2018 at 01:05 AM.

  10. #20
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    Re: D850 Lens Question??

    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Canyon View Post
    Here's the official recommendation with commentary from Scott Kelby in the August 2017 Shutterbug (and Yes I do sharpen in PS):

    Q. I’m writing with the obligatory travel gear question. I’m taking a weeklong summer vacation to visit Rome, Florence, and Venice. I will be bringing a Canon 5D Mark III and a 24-70mm f/2.8 lens. I’m trying to travel light (want to avoid divorce at the end of the trip) and balance the need for wide-angle and close-up details of church and museum ceilings. Would either a 1.4x or 2x extender be a possible solution, or would 24mm on the wide end work? Is a 70-200mm worth bringing?


    A. First, I’m totally jealous of your trip. I’ve been to all three places and they’re some of the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. You are in for a treat! If I could take just one lens, it would be a 28-300mm. I took a Tamron 28-300mm with me to Rome and it worked wonderfully because I hate taking a second lens on vacation. With just one lens, you don’t even have to carry a camera bag around with you at all (I leave it in the hotel room), which makes the trip that much better. That one lens gives me everything I need, from wide to normal to long, and it’s small, very lightweight, and affordable (B&H has it for around $599). It’s not super sharp—just “okay”—but if you sharpen your images later in Photoshop or Lightroom, then it looks like a $2,500 lens. If you take the 24-70mm and the 70-200mm, which is a great combination, you’re taking two very heavy, very large lenses and a camera bag. Yes, they’re better for low-light situations, and they’re both very sharp lenses, but now you’re on vacation with a very heavy camera bag in tow. If I’m just there to shoot photos, I’d lug the gear. If I’m on vacation and want to enjoy the vacation and take photos, I’d go with the Tamron (just speaking from experience and many family vacations that I really enjoyed by going light).

    Read more at https://www.shutterbug.com/content/q...9hxAT6xdBXJ.99


    Stay pumped! You will be happy with that lens, and it will help you realize what else you need later. (And most likely what you will need later is MORE LIGHT after being frustrated in a low-light situation, so then get your 2.8s or 1.4s.)
    Thanks! Iím already looking into the 1.4ís. What do you recommend?





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