High-rez needs higher shutter speeds.

Blade Canyon

Senior Member
The old rule in the film days was that your shutter speed should be at least the same as your focal length or faster when shooting hand-held. If shooting at 105mm, your shutter speed should be at least 1/125th of a second.

When the D800 came out, some reviewers wrote that camera shake was more noticeable because of the higher resolution. They suggested going three times the focal length. Two pro-togs here scoffed at that idea. Though I had a D800, I didn't notice that much camera shake when pixel peeping, but with the D850 I'm really seeing it. Tripling the shutter speed means using a higher ISO in most situations, but I've noticed that the sharpness from the faster shutter compensates for any extra ISO noise.

Steve Perry made a similar comment in his D850 review about how missing focus a tiny bit might have been acceptable with smaller sensors, but with the D850 you really see the miss.

For really serious work I try to use a tripod.
 

Iansky

Senior Member
There are a couple of ways to deal with this issue that works for me and could be worth considering:

1. Use a lens with image stabilisation that should negate image blur even at reciprocal shutter speeds to focal length.
2. Use auto ISO and set the min shutter speed to auto ( then adjust to +1 or +2 as you see fit).

These work for me on both the DF and also the D500 for fast action ( having said that I usually shoot the D500 on manual but still use auto ISO) they also worked for me when I had my D810.

Just a suggestion that may help and good luck with resolving it to your satisfaction.
 

Texas

Senior Member
Just more tiny pixels to peep at. Getting them nice and sharp means a billboard size print can be viewed at 3 ft and still look shiny slick.
 

Stoshowicz

Senior Member
Pixel count is highly important if you are forced to crop much , so no, it's not just about peeping, it depends on what you are shooting at.
 

Blade Canyon

Senior Member
Yeah, with my 24mp D600 I was able to crop and blow up a photo of my wife to 36" wide, and you cannot see any pixelation at all, right up close, even in her eyelashes. This D850 might be overkill, but I'm enjoying it. And as Stoshowicz said, you can crop more (if your lenses are sharp enough).
 

Texas

Senior Member
I get a kick out of "beginner" posts that worry about outgrowing a DX as their skills improve so they are thinking about a FX.

In fact the super high end FX is better for a beginner because they allow crazy severe crops, great fast autofocus, bracketing and all at many fps so they can use the camera as a machine gun.

And with all that cropping capability a
good wide angle can be a telephoto if you want it to.
 
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singlerosa_RIP

Senior Member
I get a kick out of "beginner" posts that worry about outgrowing a DX as their skills improve so they are thinking about a FX.

Why not? The best lenses are FX. Why not use them at their proper focal length? I won't get technical here. but the first photos I shot with a D600 after living with a D7000, and previously a D100, were notably better, mainly because of DOF and FF sensor.

In fact the super high end FX is better for a beginner because they allow crazy severe crops, great fast autofocus, bracketing and all at many fps so they can use the camera as a machine gun.

Someone who plops down $3K for a body will likely buy a decent lens. My first 10,000 photos sucked. And that was at 6MP or less. Beginners should start out on a more forgiving kit. And spray and pray is a pain in post.

And with all that cropping capability a
good wide angle can be a telephoto if you want it to.

Right, if you know what you're doing.
 
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spb_stan

Senior Member
Once you get used to the camera, a miracle happens, the images are sharper. Mirror slap can introduce blur but it is usually over a narrow SS range, not below or above that range, however. When viewed at the same distance and same image size, images would be expected to be about the same for shake. The D800 had more shutter bounce than the D850 so if you mastered the D800, the D850 will be fine after getting used to it. Pixel peeping however, should show more blur at 100% because it is a greater magnification factor at 100%. Zoom into to match the same size on the screen and you should not notice shutter slap greater than prior cameras.
Shoot the same scene in Live View and compare to images taken under the same conditions to see if shutter vibration is the culprit. Live View should have no shutter shake because the mirror is locked up.
 
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