D7500 Availability

Sandpatch

Senior Member
I am kinda sorta maybe thinking about a new Nikon body to replace my decade-old D5100 and was somewhat surprised to find that B&H and Crutchfield have no D7500s. Other suppliers might have them; I didn't spend a lot of time looking around. I've had really good luck with B&H over the years.

Is Nikon shipping these (or other models) as their parts inventory allows or are they at a dead stop in production for the foreseeable future? Happily, I'm in no hurry.

The D7500 seems an obvious choice with its higher 8 FPS rate (twice that of my D5100 and hopefully with a higher capacity buffer), 20.6 MP (up from 16.2 on my D5100) and 51 Focus Points (up from 11 on my D5100). Although I don't often use a flash, I want one built in and that rules out the D500. I'm aware that the D7500 has taken its lumps in reviews, but the expert criticisms are of little consequence to what I need in a camera. I haven't looked at Nikon's full frame FX cameras.
 
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BF Hammer

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The D500, D7500, D850 and D780 are the most recently introduced DSLR bodies by Nikon. D780 was the last late in 2019. I expect all future production to be Z-mount mirrorless.
 
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BF Hammer

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And of course I forgot about the D6 in 2020, so that is really the last of the F's to date. I expect the current new stock of those in warehouses to be available for years to come judging from the Z9 preorders. But point being is production on F-mount cameras is past-tense.
 

Needa

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@Sandpatch Looks like they have gray market and kits with lens available. If you click request assistance they will notify you if and when body only is available.
 
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Sandpatch

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And of course I forgot about the D6 in 2020, so that is really the last of the F's to date. I expect the current new stock of those in warehouses to be available for years to come judging from the Z9 preorders. But point being is production on F-mount cameras is past-tense.

I hadn't realized that mirrorless had taken such strong root. I'm a little confused. Are you saying that Nikon will not manufacture another DSLR, that all future production will be mirrorless?

Most of the news stories I find on the Internet are conjecture or are a year or two old.
 
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BF Hammer

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I hadn't realized that mirrorless had taken such strong root. I'm a little confused. Are you saying that Nikon will not manufacture another DSLR, that all future production will be mirrorless?

Most of the news stories I find on the Internet are conjecture or are a year or two old.

Two and half years is a long time to not introduce a new DSLR. Officially Nikon only discontinued the F6 film SLR in 2020, but when did they actually put together the last one? I would guess 10 years earlier. The technological shelf-life of DSLR is going to be much shorter. It may be a couple of years in the future yet, but official discontinuation of DSLR's is pretty much a given. I truly believe we have reached the end of production for them.

Just an aside, in my profession as a copier/printer repair tech, I saw the transition from analog photocopiers to digital process copiers happen in the late 1990's. It felt like a quick transition at the time, but in reality it was 3-4 years. At the end my employer had 3 larger-size analog copiers still in their boxes in warehouse and could not find a home for them without taking a loss on investment. It may be that way for DSLR. Old stock living on in warehouses waiting to be shipped.
 
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Sandpatch

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... It may be a couple of years in the future yet, but official discontinuation of DSLR's is pretty much a given. I truly believe we have reached the end of production for them. ...

Wow. So then, it's not just Nikon that's working through this transition, but all DSLR camera makers. Sigh. I need to bring myself up to speed on mirrorless, especially in the area of battery life which I read is of concern.

I must admit that I don't welcome all technological change. My new car is a 6-Speed stick because it's fun. After 50 years of driving, I still haven't made the jump to an automatic. :rolleyes:
 
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BF Hammer

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Wow. So then, it's not just Nikon that's working through this transition, but all DSLR camera makers. Sigh. I need to bring myself up to speed on mirrorless, especially in the area of battery life which I read somewhere is of concern.

I must admit that I don't welcome all technological change. My new car is a 6-Speed stick because it's fun. After 50 years of driving, I still haven't made the jump to an automatic. :rolleyes:

Your next car after not only will be an automatic, it will have an electric motor. At least the odds of that are high. Trucks and SUV's will keep gas engines for longer.

Really, Pentax is still there with a DSLR. They may be unable to R&D their way into a mirrorless format.
 

BF Hammer

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I forgot about mirrorless options. I'll have to check those out and see what the technology is all about. Thanks!

I very nearly bought a Zfc a few months ago, and went with a Z5 instead. Instant rebate did help sway me, but I have been in a transition from DX to FX format for the past 2 years and now I'm fully full-frame. I think the Z50 may be the only affordable Z-mount with an internal flash right now. Because of my Z5, I'm in a Z-mount transition period, but the FTZ adapter does allow me to do it in a more controlled over time fashion. I intend to right the short-sighted decisions I made on lenses in the past and buy the more pro-level Z lenses. It will take a couple of years of saving and waiting for a sale or good used example to cross my path, then jump on them.
 

Bikerbrent

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Many, many years ago, I bought into the Nikon system. One of the main reasons I bought into Nikon was that they seemed to support ALL of their customers by supporting even older cameras and lenses (more than I could say about some of the other camera companies). However, it is beginning to look more and more that Nikon is more interested in improving their bottom line than supporting older customers. If I was a beginning photographer today, I don't know if I would join the Nikon system or not. However, I don't really know which system I would buy into? However, being 76 years old now, I can't really justify moving into any other camera company. I feel pretty well trapped!
 

BF Hammer

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Many, many years ago, I bought into the Nikon system. One of the main reasons I bought into Nikon was that they seemed to support ALL of their customers by supporting even older cameras and lenses (more than I could say about some of the other camera companies). However, it is beginning to look more and more that Nikon is more interested in improving their bottom line than supporting older customers. If I was a beginning photographer today, I don't know if I would join the Nikon system or not. However, I don't really know which system I would buy into? However, being 76 years old now, I can't really justify moving into any other camera company. I feel pretty well trapped!

Yeah it's difficult to see the change happening. Smartphones have taken most entry-level consumers out of the market for dedicated cameras of any kind. There is less need for that kind of product all-around. Sony comes in with a new way, and really disrupted the forecasts of the future for Canon and Nikon. The most vocal consumers are saying they want more ability to shoot video, so the mirrorless systems have to come to the forefront as that overcomes the biggest problem with shooting video on a DSLR. Those of us who don't care a bit about video, well we are going to have to go along with the ride or else buy up all the old gear. F-mount lenses will be abundant on the used market for a long time. Now think of the older people who gleefully switched to micro-four-thirds in order to lighten their gear load 15 years ago, and now all the new gear is going back to full-frame sensors.

I do see advantage with shooting astrophotography with mirrorless, so that has become one of the reasons I have a Z5 now. But prior to this year I did not want to commit to Nikon Z as I was seeing good stuff from Canon R-mount. But Nikon is really making a splash with the Z9 and I see that bringing some people back to the fold from Sony. I expect that to be as slow of a process as having the users leave in the first place. Things are looking up a bit.
 

Sandpatch

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Hmm, with railroad photography being my primary interest, the ability to shoot at a higher FPS rate is of importance. Trains don't hold still while the photographer sets up an ideal composition and tests settings. :)

My D5100 is limited to 4 FPS. Models Z6II to Z9 exceed what I wish to pay, so I'm left with the Z6 (FX) @ 12 FPS, Z5 (FX) @ 4.5 FPS and the Z50 (DX) 11 FPS.

With greater FPS in mind, my final choices would be the Z6 @ $1,600 or the Z50 @ $860 and then there'd be lenses on top of that.

For now, I think I'll think this through and will probably hold off for a while. I've enjoyed this discussion and have learned a lot. :encouragement:
 

Needa

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and then there'd be lenses on top of that.

That is not all, a Z6 requires a new memory card XQD or CFexpress B (not exactly cheap) and doesn't have a built in flash. If you want to use your old lenses then there is the cost of the FTZ adapter. I looked seriously at both, couldn't justify the cost of the Z6 and the Z50 has no IBIS, I didn't think I was gaining that much.


For now, I think I'll think this through and will probably hold off for a while.

And that's were I'm at and won't buy anything for the current setup, who wants to possibly throw away money.


You continue to produce some great picture with that D5100.:encouragement:
 

bluzman

Senior Member
A couple of comments...

MPB is currently showing 35 used D7500 bodies in stock. All are priced less than $900 including a dozen or so are described as "like new" that have less than 10,000 shutter actuations.

I own several Nikon DSLRs including a D7500 and can testify that IMO it's an excellent camera. I don't care that it it only has a single card slot which seems to be one of the criticisms mentioned by some folks.

I also own a Z 50 with the two DX kit lenses and FTZ converter. For capturing relatively slow moving subjects, it's excellent. For BIFs and fast action, the AF is not as good the D7500 and definitely not in the same league as my D500. While mirrorless cameras are apparently the wave of the future, I'm not interested in them beyond what I already own. YMMV

Finally, as someone who is very nearly 80, I have even less interest in electric cars. Call me a troglodyte or a luddite or whatever, but I want my transportation powered by an internal combustion engine.
 

Sandpatch

Senior Member
... You continue to produce some great picture with that D5100.:encouragement:

Thanks very much Needa. I hadn't thought to check for a built-in flash on the Z6, so without one, it's now off my list. Glad to see that you're content to stick with your D7100. My D5100 is like an old pair of jeans, comfortable and familiar. Like my old Nikon film cameras, I know just what it's going to do.
 

BF Hammer

Senior Member
Just read an article at Nikon Rumors about Nikon's own projected earnings in the coming 4 years. The pie-chart graph clearly indicates they plan to be out of the F-mount business before 2025. I think I will still be holding my D750 then as I agree it is easier to track birds in flight with the optical viewfinder. But change is coming for sure.

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Clovishound

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While I am currently loathe to recommend the Nikon Store, they do have the D7500 on sale right now for $999. If you don't want to deal with them it looks like Best Buy has them for the same price.
 
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