First out with my new D7500

06Honda

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A barred owl from late today. A few branches but this is common with perched owls. Overall the D7500 is quite similar to my D7200 as far as image quality goes, the faster FPS is nice and oddly it feels slightly heavier but not by much. It may be the position of the camera strap eyelets. Feels good in my hands paired with the AF-S 80-400MM F/4.5-5.6G ED VR. Also a few more options in the menus that at some point I will try out such as highlighted weighted metering & Group Autofocus. Not sure if there is any real visible difference between Standard & Auto in "Set Picture Control" menu option list. Vivid gives a little more pop especially if you have a blue sky in the background. Lasty the battery life is not as good as my D7200, but the D7200 batteries work in the 7500 so that helps with not having to buy an extra battery for trips.
 

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Lasty the battery life is not as good as my D7200, but the D7200 batteries work in the 7500 so that helps with not having to buy an extra battery for trips.

Great photo - love the depth conveyed in your image. :)

So did your D7500 come with an EN-EL 15a battery? At least that's the one listed with its specs. If so, that's the problem. You should consider replacing it with an EN-EL15c battery which lasts longer yet is completely interchangeable (and can be used in your D7200). Then the EN-EL15a can be used as a backup. If you have a touch screen, consider turning it off unless you really intend to use it. Bumping the screen with your face or fingers will quickly consume battery power. And if you have the option to turn off WiFi (such as putting it into Airplane Mode), consider doing that, too. Otherwise, it will drain the battery just by being enabled.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...n_el15c_rechargeable_lithium_ion_battery.html
 

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My battery is a EN-EL15b? I would guess that shooting in CH would likely use a bit more battery power.

The 'c' still offers longer battery power. It's the battery they use in the D500. However, I believe the 'b' version is better than the 'a' so at least it is helpful for you to have the 'b'. No clue regarding the amount of battery power used for continuous shooting though.
 

06Honda

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I checked my settings and enabled the Airplane mode and turned off the touchscreen. Will let the battery go through a few charges first and see if the battery gets conditioned and if not I will just order newer battery (EN-EL15c). Thanks for the info and help.
 

06Honda

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Yes, it feels good in my hands and is very easy to use menu wise. The image quality is very similar to my D7200 but the fast FPS is noticeable. Haven't had an opportunity to try out the Group Auto Focus yet.
 

06Honda

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So after shooting a a while with a D7500 I do prefer the images and colours on my D7200. The FPS and Group Auto-focus on the D7500 is nice but overall I would say the D7200 would be my preferred body. I have always used the Vivid colour setting under Picture Controls in the D7200 but find this setting in the D7500 a bit too colourful so I will try shooting in Standard next time out and see how they look. Tried photographing a swan using Highlight Metering, and then shot without and their is no visible difference in the photo. My lesson learned is something newer is not necessarily better but for my long travels having a 2nd body was a good idea.

* Normally shoot JPEG but I will shoot in Raw next outing and see how we make out in post editing. I tried this years ago but never saw any visible difference between the files but from what I have been told by many photographers is the difference and flexibility you have in editing, so I'll give it a try.
 
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Bikerbrent

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What you discovered about the D7200 vs. the D7500 is precisely why I am sticking to the D7200. If my D7200 dies and I can't find a decent D7200, I do not know what I will do! :(
 

Clovishound

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Clovispup and I took a digital photography class last fall. She is a relative newbie, albeit with a very good eye. I, on the other hand, was an old hand at photography, but from the film days, and rather rusty. Anyway, the instructor, who teaches photography at a local college, said to shoot RAW and sort it out post production. We took his advice and never looked back.

The pictures straight from the camera may not look as good, but they come alive with just a little adjustment in Lightroom. The only time I use JPEG anymore is to downsize and compress a photo for use on the internet. If you want a direct comparison, you could shoot in RAW + JPEG and have both versions of the same image saved right in the camera.
 

Needa

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So after shooting a a while with a D7500 I do prefer the images and colours on my D7200. The FPS and Group Auto-focus on the D7500 is nice but overall I would say the D7200 would be my preferred body. I have always used the Vivid colour setting under Picture Controls in the D7200 but find this setting in the D7500 a bit too colourful so I will try shooting in Standard next time out and see how they look. Tried photographing a swan using Highlight Metering, and then shot without and their is no visible difference in the photo. My lesson learned is something newer is not necessarily better but for my long travels having a 2nd body was a good idea.

* Normally shoot JPEG but I will shoot in Raw next outing and see how we make out in post editing. I tried this years ago but never saw any visible difference between the files but from what I have been told by many photographers is the difference and flexibility you have in editing, so I'll give it a try.


The color space Adobe RGB or sRGB will have affect on your raw files, you may want to see if it changes your JEPG also.

Correction this may or may make a difference depending on your processing software setup.
 
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Dawg Pics

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Did you try adjusting the Picture Controls? I think you can create a custom one as well. You could reduce the saturation a bit on Vivid.

I don't know if this will help, but there is an option called "Fine-tune Optimal Exposure" (B6 in the menu). You can adjust the metering in there for Highlight-weighted metering as well as Matrix, Center-weighted and Spot. I can't remember now, but it seems like the default on my D500 was to reduce the exposure some. I think that is why my initial exposures were darker than expected.
 

Dawg Pics

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The color space Adobe RGB or sRGB will have affect on your raw files, you may want to see if it changes your JEPG also.

My understanding is that the chosen color space doesn't affect the raw file since it needs to be processed, but it does affect the jPegs and playback images since they are processed in camera. In your processing software, you can chose the color space you want for processing. The color space choice is attached to the file, though, but I read that is to tell the software what to use to process, but that can be changed.

Am I way off? Color management and printing confuses the hell out of me.
 

Needa

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My understanding is that the chosen color space doesn't affect the raw file since it needs to be processed, but it does affect the jPegs and playback images since they are processed in camera. In your processing software, you can chose the color space you want for processing. The color space choice is attached to the file, though, but I read that is to tell the software what to use to process, but that can be changed.

Am I way off? Color management and printing confuses the hell out of me.

No, you are not off. The raw file is just camera and sensor information in a file, not viewable as an image and processing must take place for you to see the the RAW data image. As I understand it color space setting does not affect the recorded sensor information. As you stated the RAW software may or may not use the as shot information as a starting point.
 
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