upgrade to D750?

eal1

Senior Member
Posing a hypothetical question: suppose as rumored, the D750 has the 51 point focus system, among a few other upgrades to the D610.
Would you upgrade? Would the 51 points, spread out better and further than the 39 point system, be a decisive factor in your decision?
I am asking because I found the placement of the 39 focus points a bit frustrating recently.
 

yauman

Senior Member
I just finished reading the detail spec on it on the B&H site which is now taking pre-orders. It reads like my D7100 (51-pt focus, all the focus and exposure modes etc) with the only difference of having a FX sensor, WiFi and an articulated LCD. All the controls and functions read the same. Ok, it does use the expeed 4 processor but I don't think any user would see the difference unless shooting video.

It's definitely worth thinking as an upgrade to my D7100 as I won't have to learn a new camera with this - just getting that FX sensor. But with the recent history of Nikon's mis-steps with new models (D600-D610, D810- D810 with a blue Dot, SB900-SB910) I think will wait a year for them to iron out their bugs!
 

Rick M

Senior Member
It really depends on your needs. I have a new D610 and it does everything I want it to. For me it would be a waste of money. It's just a more "pro" D610 with very nice features. If you need/want an upgraded AF system then the D750 is the camera for you. I'd be more interested in a Pro Dx for sports/action.
 

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
I'm with Rick. If you've got the D610 and weren't spending time thinking (before you knew there would be a D750), "Man, this is a good camera but I really wish it had...", then you probably don't need to upgrade. If you were troubled by the AF, either the speed or number of points, and routinely had shots missed because of it, them sure, once things shake out and you read reviews, go for it if you're still feeling it.

If you were looking to move into FX from DX I'd say issue the same caveat regarding things shaking out, but then tell you to skip right over the 600 line straight to it because it's a better featured camera for not a whole lot more.
 

kamaccord

Senior Member
I'd be more interested in a Pro Dx for sports/action.

Rick this was a thought I have weighed most of today being that I shoot sports for a local sports network. I have even considered for the first time today of biting the bullet and possibly purchasing a D4s. However, I do not bring in the photography revenue to justify such a large purchase in my opinion. I'm still waiting on more reviews regarding the D750 performance low light capability off paper and frame rate in crop mode and with a battery grip. This may end up being the best move for me to move to full-frame.
 

Rick M

Senior Member
Without a doubt, this is probably the best option if you do not already have an Fx camera. I don't really get the action angle though, how much faster is it really then the D610? I like the 51 pts and mostly the weather sealing. The flip screen does nothing for me. For what I use Fx for, or if cash strapped, the D610 is still an excellent camera. Sports/Wildlife? Not really. I think Nikon will still build a pro Dx, actually it would be the next logical release.
 

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
I don't think there is an "action" angle outside of what was floated on Nikon Rumors. The final product certainly isn't.

There is certainly a void in the pro-sumer Sports camera in the Nikon line right now, FX or DX. The buffer on the D7100 cripples it (I didn't say "kill", I said "cripples") unless you're shooting JPEG, and still you're only getting 7 fps. Would be nice to see a 24 MP DX at 8 fps with a buffer large enough to handle at least 2.5 seconds.
 

Krs_2007

Senior Member
I don't think there is an "action" angle outside of what was floated on Nikon Rumors. The final product certainly isn't.

There is certainly a void in the pro-sumer Sports camera in the Nikon line right now, FX or DX. The buffer on the D7100 cripples it (I didn't say "kill", I said "cripples") unless you're shooting JPEG, and still you're only getting 7 fps. Would be nice to see a 24 MP DX at 8 fps with a buffer large enough to handle at least 2.5 seconds.

That is exactly what I want, without having to get a second mortgage to pay for it. Dont need 11, would be nice but would be very happy with 8.
 

TL Robinson

Senior Member
Personally I wouldn't see this as an upgrade for my D610. I'd just as soon get new glass and save money for a D810 or something that *is* an upgrade. Won't be moving to this camera.
 

SkvLTD

Senior Member
I'd say an "upgrade" may only be worth it if you got a new-ish 610 and could flip it without losing more than $100 net, then adding the extra $400 for the new margins with this being the main body for a couple years in mind.

Otherwise used 600's are probably too good of a deal to even bother with all these new things, thus getting a 600 to be a main/later backup body and saving all the pennies for an 810 or the Df.
 

Rick M

Senior Member
I've found that I'm not better than the D610 and a more expensive body is not going to improve my photography. Some of my best shots still seem to have come from my D5100. I'll know more in the next couple Months as show season starts. I feel newer shooters should always buy more than they can handle so they don't waste money upgrading (to a point). There are many shooters like me, that may never surpass a camera like the D610.

On the other hand, if the tool has improved significantly, I'll upgrade. That will be when the sensor has advanced significantly, 99% of the importance to me.
 

eal1

Senior Member
you all raise good points, including the assessment that the tool (let's say 610) might be beyond the current skill level of its user (me),
so why upgrade. The one thing i can think of is if the auto focus of the 750 proves to be more useable, covers a greater range of the viewfinder and makes focusing more precise, tracking moving subjects more precise, or for some, if the other attributes contribute to a more enjoyable experience, with better photos as a result. But it seems wise to wait and see reviews of the 750 once it is used by a wide audience of first adopters and professional reviewers. SO, i am going to wait, watch and evaluate before selling my 610 and purchasing the 750.
 

Rick M

Senior Member
Sounds like a good plan! The first time I bought a body on the first day of release was a mistake. I know it's hard to wait, but...,
 

FLIGHTO

Senior Member
I'm really bummed out as of recent in being torn between DX and FX. The D610 would have been my choice since the prices will be going down especially on refurbs in the coming months but after researching it I found the D610 does not have the ok button zoom feature that I cannot live without. We have all been spoiled by the flagship DX D7100. Now I feel the D610 would be a downgrade. With the release of the 7D Markll I think nikon is in big trouble!! I think nikon will be forced now to bring out a pro DX cam. So here I wait. But then again the D7100 is a fantastic body. But I have NAS really bad. I wish there was medication for it..
 

NVSteve

Senior Member
you all raise good points, including the assessment that the tool (let's say 610) might be beyond the current skill level of its user (me),
so why upgrade. The one thing i can think of is if the auto focus of the 750 proves to be more useable, covers a greater range of the viewfinder and makes focusing more precise, tracking moving subjects more precise, or for some, if the other attributes contribute to a more enjoyable experience, with better photos as a result. But it seems wise to wait and see reviews of the 750 once it is used by a wide audience of first adopters and professional reviewers. SO, i am going to wait, watch and evaluate before selling my 610 and purchasing the 750.

Good points. I know I won't be putting myself in a situation where I can be burned again (D600 splatter). I'm really curious to see if there are any issues with it since Nikon hasn't exactly had a great track record of late. Also, with the way prices dropped on the D600 and D610, I'm kind of hoping the D750 will start falling sooner rather than later. The better AF and tracking are certainly bonus points, but the biggest one for me would be the tiltable LCD. I know there are many who scoff at the idea & consider it very amateur, but having had a camera with one before, I can honestly say it is of tremendous help. I don't mind lying on dirt, but I draw the line when it is mud. But, the price difference between a D600 and D750 is about a D610-a bit much for only a couple of additional features I would like.
 

iCapture

Senior Member
I have a D7100 and love it but would like to add a FX camera to my system. From all the glowing reviews and key upgrades this is looking like my next camera. Of course I will give it until spring-ish 2015 to make sure there are no quirks. Will be saving all this winter for a D750 body and maybe a Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS Art lens for a walk around.

I won't be parting with my D7100 anytime soon tho.
 
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Anco

Senior Member
Having just bought a D610 a few weeks ago, I can happily say I have no intention of upgrading to the D750. Where I live the reported asking price for the new model is $700 more than I paid for the D610. Having parted with $1800 for my D610, that makes the new model almost 40% more expensive. I just don't see enough extra features in that camera to justify the extra cost.
I think I got lucky with my timing because I was looking at the D810 trying to justify the cost of that camera and I know I remember wishing they had an option that sat between an 810 and 610 price wise. So if this new model was available a month ago, I have no doubt I would have bought it. But the fact of the matter is, I don't need it. I have a great camera and $700 more to spend on glass.
In the end, more money spent on better FX glass, will get me better results than a slightly improved model without the cash for nice lenses.
 

Vincent

Senior Member
...I think Nikon will still build a pro Dx, actually it would be the next logical release.

I do not see the logic:

DX: Entry: D3300 a bit better: D5300 quite a good machine: D7100 ... logically when you want to go better go FF.
FF: Entry: D610 a bit better D750 something special: Df Lots of resolution: D810 Workhorse: D4s

If you have issues with the D7100, you will probably need more ISO performance, at this moment you will have to go FF. (My hopes are on the Samsung NX1, but they are low) You will get better results with a D750 and a heavy crop then you will probably get with any professional DX model (Canon included).

...With the release of the 7D Markll I think nikon is in big trouble!! I think nikon will be forced now to bring out a pro DX cam.

I will wait to see the test results, but I do not think so. Yes the 7D MarkII will outsell the D750, but not because it is better, just because people have the L lenses that go with the Canon.
 
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