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  1. #11
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post

    If you are considering a D810, I'd stick with FX lenses. I've heard good things about the Tamron 70-200mm.
    I got to check out one today, and wow am I impressed. The focus was quick and the build quality was great. Unfortunately I didn't keep the test shots as I had the Tamron on my 7100, and was comparing the Nikon 70-200 2.8 with a D750 attached to it. I did like checking out the 750, the tilt mounts for the screen seemed solid enough, but I didn't think to stick my card in so I could bring home shots to look at closer


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  2. #12
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Hate camera store guys - except when I get to laugh at other people's stories. Salesmen have a job to do, and if you walk out of a store buying something you had no idea you were getting before you go in, and something you haven't fully researched based solely on their "expertise" and recommendation, they did their job even if you didn't do yours.

    No one should be buying a NIB D600 today or any other day, but it's a fine camera, and if you have problems (and there's a good chance you will) it can rather quickly become a NIB D610 - i know from experience. The hype of "better sealing" on the D610 is just that. The "D800 weather sealing" does very little more to seal the camera than the older stuff because it's the pro-grade D800 body that really makes the difference in the seal. Besides, the D600's problem was never the sealing, it was the shutter. The D7100 and the D600/610 are identical bodies from a materials point of view, so his hot smoke enema was again effective - though the idea of even contemplating a D600 (or D610, or D750) "months" before a planned D810 purchase is rather bizarre in my book, and that's a bizarre book to begin with.

    I'm with Rick - buying a DX lens, used or otherwise, that is as big, heavy and unwieldy as the Siggy, particularly one with such an uncommon (i.e. tough to re-sell) zoom range, this close to a D810 purchase smells a lot more of salesmanship than buying smarts. But hey, but at least you're home and still happy with your purchase, so what the heck do we know.
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  3. #13
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    I'm with the other guy's.. That sigma 50-150mm 2.8 is a stellar lens, but it does not hold value like nikkor lens do...if you are going to keep the d7100 then it was not a bad decesion .. But if you are selling the D7100 and siggy to fund the D810.. You will be shocked what both are worth once you try to sell..
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  4. #14
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief227 View Post
    Ya he did, because it was what I needed and could afford. Plus I can probably get 90% or better of my money back when I do sell for what I paid for it. Jeesh not everybody can afford a 24-70 2.8.
    thats great optimistic thinking. reality will kick in when youll realize youll get 70% at best. sigmas used sell for crumbs. depends which lens and since DX is on the down, youll have a harder time.

    24-70 is not 50-150 or 70-200. different lenses. the tamron 24-70 VC is also a great lens. or even the previous gen tamron 28-75 2.8. its my backup lens.

    you should have gotten the sigma 18-35 1.8 or a used 17-55 2.8 AFS if you needed a midrange zoom. instead of the 50-150 I would have gone for a used 80-200 AFD/AFS that I can take with me to the FF side. now its more gear to sell and lose money from.

    I wont comment on the D7100 vs D600.

  5. #15
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    I have a 17-50 2.8, I needed a 50-150, GOD I have been on this site a week and I am done. You guys are the biggest bunch of snobs I have ever seen on a web forum. No support for the newer guy. Just you should do this you should do that. Wow talk about crushing the student on a budget.

  6. #16
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief227 View Post
    I have a 17-50 2.8, I needed a 50-150, GOD I have been on this site a week and I am done. You guys are the biggest bunch of snobs I have ever seen on a web forum. No support for the newer guy. Just you should do this you should do that. Wow talk about crushing the student on a budget.
    You've obviously never been on a BMW or a Mazdaspeed forum then.

    From one hobbyist to another, I'll tell you this - these guys and gals are mainly semi to full professionals. They don't mean to deride your pleasure in acquiring glass - they're just going by the book on how standards are, along with what's smart future buying.

    I'll be honest, even a rookie like myself finds 17-50 / 50-150 to be really weird lens ranges. If you look at how most of the Nikkor FX ranges are, it's usually midteens to 20s, 20s to 70s/80s/100, then 100 to above. It might be harder to sell non-standard lens ranges, much like how it would be hard to sell SAE (American measurement) tools outside of the Americas. On top of that, if you're going from a DX (7100) to a FX (600), and you're picking up DX style lens, you're going to feel the pain of it once you mount that DX lens and try to shoot with it. It's just a smarter investment to save up for an FX style lens - even if you're using a DX camera - so that you'll have something to mount once you make that step up.

    So don't think they're bringing you down. I've learned quite a bit in here and am starting to experiment much much more (dude, rent a Nikkor 24-70mm - it doesn't go up to 150, but with the 1.5 crop ratio, it's close at 105). It's all good - we all learn. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it feels awesome.
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  7. #17
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief227 View Post
    I have a 17-50 2.8, I needed a 50-150, GOD I have been on this site a week and I am done. You guys are the biggest bunch of snobs I have ever seen on a web forum. No support for the newer guy. Just you should do this you should do that. Wow talk about crushing the student on a budget.
    If we were snobs, we would not even comment..For being on a budget, you do not seem to be making smart decisions with your $$. No reason to get butt-hurt..We all mean well.. It is just alittle confusing about the decisions you have made..The d810 is not a budget camera...Honestly you having the 17-50mm 2.8 and 50mm-150mm + the D7100 is all you need to produce quality images.. Assuming proper lighting and post-processing is in the mix.. Relax...This is one of the best forums out there for sure.
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  8. #18
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Sorry if anything I said came across as being snobby as that was not my intention--many of us have been on limited budgets, and it isn't always easy. You need to do what works best for your situation. Good luck with your purchase and enjoy.
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  9. #19
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief227 View Post
    I have a 17-50 2.8, I needed a 50-150, GOD I have been on this site a week and I am done. You guys are the biggest bunch of snobs I have ever seen on a web forum. No support for the newer guy. Just you should do this you should do that. Wow talk about crushing the student on a budget.
    shame you didnt ask people here before. the switch from DX to FF is a difficult one because its done in steps and usually there is problems with lenses as well. not everyone is able to make the jump in one shot. you could have used the 17-50 with the D600 at 10mp which is enough rez for most needs and then gotten a used 80-200 with the D600. get the D600 used and trade it in for the D610.
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  10. #20
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    Re: Talked out of a D600

    Quote Originally Posted by crewchief227 View Post
    GOD I have been on this site a week and I am done. You guys are the biggest bunch of snobs I have ever seen on a web forum. No support for the newer guy. Just you should do this you should do that. Wow talk about crushing the student on a budget.
    Well, that's new.
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