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Don Kuykendall_RIP

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Going through all the setting on the D7000 and I must say it is a lot more involved than my D5100.

One that I really can't find a consensus on though is the RAW settings.

There is Lossless Compressed or Compressed=====I picked lossless compressed. Is there a reason to choose the other?

The other is RAW bit Depth. Choices are 12 bit or 14 bit. One place I read that it did not really make that much difference so chose the 12 bit for smaller files.

My setting now is lossless and 14 bit.

​What are you shooting and why?
 
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I still have problems finding the right button on the D7100!! You'll master it in no time since you can't go anywhere.
 
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Congrats on the new machine Don, you'll love it once you get past the WTH stage.

I also shoot lossless, 14-bit and the reason is that when you compress a file it loses something, there is no free lunch.
As far as 14-bit it has to do with how the data from the sensor is read, it comes in as ADC Analog to Digital conversion and the number of bits used in the conversion is either 12 or 14 in this case. At least this is the way I understand it, if I'm all twisted around I understand we've got pros around here that will straighten me out.
 
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Marilynne said:
I still have problems finding the right button on the D7100!! You'll master it in no time since you can't go anywhere.
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I assume the buttons on the D7100 and the D7000 are close? I have been playing and Googleing all day now. I may go to a high school football game tonight so the camera will go with me.
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mikeh32217 said:
Congrats on the new machine Don, you'll love it once you get past the WTH stage.

I also shoot lossless, 14-bit and the reason is that when you compress a file it loses something, there is no free lunch.
As far as 14-bit it has to do with how the data from the sensor is read, it comes in as ADC Analog to Digital conversion and the number of bits used in the conversion is either 12 or 14 in this case. At least this is the way I understand it, if I'm all twisted around I understand we've got pros around here that will straighten me out.
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I have a degree in computer programming so I understand the basics pretty good. I have set for the max on everything but I also have seen setting like this that in the end really do make any difference. Lossless and 12/14 bit may not even be measurable in 95% of the shots but the other 5% might be worth the effort/space.
 
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Mine is set for 14 bit lossless compressed. I gave up trying to weigh 12 vs 14 bit. With these settings my display says 454 pictures for a 16gb card. So that's 908 pictures. Plenty of room, so I go with the best. If I set it for 12 bit, I get one more shot in on a burst before things slow down. Maybe a faster card would make the burst difference greater. Enjoy the camera!
 
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Don Kuykendall said:
I have a degree in computer programming so I understand the basics pretty good. I have set for the max on everything but I also have seen setting like this that in the end really do make any difference. Lossless and 12/14 bit may not even be measurable in 95% of the shots but the other 5% might be worth the effort/space.
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I also have a degree in Computer Programming actually the full title is "Engineering Physics with and Emphasis on Computer Science" fancy way of saying Scientific Programmer, but didn't get into Scientific Programming wasn't that much of a market for those skills.
 
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I also have a degree in Computer Programming actually the full title is "Engineering Physics with and Emphasis on Computer Science" fancy way of saying Scientific Programmer, but didn't get into Scientific Programming wasn't that much of a market for those skills.
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My first degree was electronics many many years ago and I started off in TV then to photography / lab management. Then retired and starter doing some OSHA database programming for business. Got the computer programming degree just to have something to do. Never really used any of it.
 
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Don Kuykendall said:
My first degree was electronics many many years ago and I started off in TV then to photography / lab management. Then retired and starter doing some OSHA database programming for business. Got the computer programming degree just to have something to do. Never really used any of it.
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That's a coincidence, I've dabbled in electronics most of my life and my first job involved robotics which I really enjoyed but I gave it up for a job in Florida and now that I'm retired I've gotten back into pretty heavily and really enjoy it. Of course photography has always been a pass time also which now has become a second or third addiction. :)
 
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I have had my D7000 since February and I was baffled yesterday by what was happening when I used the on-camera flash and the camera set to aperture priority. It kept showing, "slow" and "rear" whenever I turned on the flash. I went through all the menu options and couldn't find a fix. It turned out I must have turned the main wheel at the same time I had popped up the flash. It took me a while and a search on the Web to figure how to fix it. So, Don, don't feel bad. :)
 
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piperbarb said:
I have had my D7000 since February and I was baffled yesterday by what was happening when I used the on-camera flash and the camera set to aperture priority. It kept showing, "slow" and "rear" whenever I turned on the flash. I went through all the menu options and couldn't find a fix. It turned out I must have turned the main wheel at the same time I had popped up the flash. It took me a while and a search on the Web to figure how to fix it. So, Don, don't feel bad. :)
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Every time I take mine out I have an epiphany. :)
 
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Don Kuykendall said:
Going through all the setting on the D7000 and I must say it is a lot more involved than my D5100.

One that I really can't find a consensus on though is the RAW settings.

There is Lossless Compressed or Compressed=====I picked lossless compressed. Is there a reason to choose the other?

The other is RAW bit Depth. Choices are 12 bit or 14 bit. One place I read that it did not really make that much difference so chose the 12 bit for smaller files.

My setting now is lossless and 14 bit.

​What are you shooting and why?
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Welcome to my world when I got my d7100 - LOL. I was used to using consumer DSLR and just thought the menu system would be "better". Was I in for a surprise. best to you Don. Enjoy.

Yes the d7000 and d7100 have virtually the same menus.

I use 14-bit lossless raw because it has the most data - it seems I've read that HDR had 4 times the amount of data of 14-bit raw. Sort of the same concept to me - get all the data so your post processing has more there for you to manipulate. The one thing I'm not sure about but I think I know the answer is all those settings, (except maybe white balance) have no affect on the raw data - they only affect jegp in-camera processing.

A lot of people it seems are fairly happy with just getting jpeg's, and depending on your HHD space (mine's filling up fast), jpeg quality is pretty darn good.

My best advice to you - reading your posts one can tell you're an "I got an answer type guy", so get Darrel Young's book "Mastering the Nikon D7000". It's fantastic. I've owned my D7100 for a while now but this book is answering all my technically related camera questions. It's more than another manual - he ties together just about all the parts and pieces of how the camera works and your "why and what for" questions.

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Nik...414&sr=1-1&keywords=Mastering+the+Nikon+D7000
 
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whistlingpete said:
Welcome to my world when I got my d7100 - LOL. I was used to using consumer DSLR (which I was extremely frustrated with) and thought the menu system would be "better". Was I in for a surprise. best to you Don. Enjoy.

Yes the d7000 and d7100 have virtually the same menus.

I use 14-bit lossless raw because it has the most data - it seems I've read that HDR had 4 times the amount of data of 14-bit raw. Sort of the same concept to me - get all the data so your post processing has more there for you to manipulate. The one thing I'm not sure about but I think I know the answer is all those settings, (except maybe white balance) have no affect on the raw data - they only affect jegp in-camera processing.

A lot of people it seems are fairly happy with just getting jpeg's, and depending on your HHD space (mine's filling up fast), jpeg quality is pretty darn good.

My best advice to you - reading your posts one can tell you're an "I got an answer type guy", so get Darrel Young's book "Mastering the Nikon D7000". It's fantastic. I've owned my D7100 for a while now but this book is answering all my technically related camera questions. It's more than another manual - he ties together just about all the parts and pieces of how the camera works and your "why and what for" questions.

Mastering the Nikon D7000: Darrell Young: 9781933952802: Amazon.com: Books
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I have that book and found it doesn't miss anything I'm curious about.
 
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