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  1. #1
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    Newbie - shooting night football

    Newbie - shooting night football
    Morning everyone! New owner of this camera and trying to figure things out
    Shot some night football last night. Tried using Priority mode, then tried the "Sports" automatic setting the camera has

    Problem I'm having is blurry shots. Shutter speed won't go high enough. When I switched to manual (first time i tried it) the camera warned me that the subject was too dark as I increased the shutter speed.

    Any suggestions on what setting I should be on to get some improvements?
    Thanks for helping me learn!!

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    Lense 70.0-300.0mm f/4.5-6.3
    ISO 3200
    120mm
    f 4.8
    1/60sec
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Newbie - shooting night football
    Your shutter speed is far too low but it is only one part of the exposure triangle the other two need to be in balance for the correct exposure, you could look at this.



    Looking at your settings i dont think you had enough light to capture the image.
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Study that video that Mike posted above. Ask questions if you don't get it. For your DSLR happiness, you need to completely understand that.

    Now to apply what you've learned, you can do that in various ways. There are different ways to get to the same end. You will get various different methods suggested from people. All will work, but don't mix and match methods, lol.

    For me, I would shoot this in manual with auto iso. I shoot wildlife this way so I am most comfortable with this. The setup would be Manual mode. Set the aperture wide open. Set your shutter speed at least 1/focal length or faster. So for the 120mm shot above try 1/125. Set iso to auto with bottom of iso 100 and no upper limit. Some will disagree with no upper limit, but for now, try it.
    Back to the shutter speed, 1/125 is a bare minimum, you will likely need to raise it to not get blurry pictures if there is motion. Probably 1/250. With this setup, you can play with the shutter speed all you want and the iso will adjust to balance the triangle. You won't need to mess with the aperture unless you desire more depth of field.

    Although my preference is above, you could also shoot this in shutter priority and auto iso. You could use manual iso, but more thinking and observing is needed.

    I suggest manual or shutter priority because I feel for a dark scene with motion, shutter speed is most important and that is the parameter you need the most control over. For a dark scene, you also want to keep your aperture wide open unless depth of field becomes important. Keeping your aperture wider will keep the iso as low as possible giving a less noisy shot.
    I must have a really good camera.

  4. #4
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    That is excellent information. Thanks so much! I will try some of these settings this week!

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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Welcome to the forum @BadWolf. Learning the exposure triangle is challenging but so worth it.
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Is your lens a VR? If not, then you have to keep in mind that the more you zoom, the faster your shutter speed needs to be to overcome camera shake. I shoot at least double the focal length especially for the long lenses because I am a shaky shooter.
    Last edited by Dawg Pics; 10-01-2019 at 12:48 AM.
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    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
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  7. #7
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    No this lense is not VR - didn't even think about that!

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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Dumb question I'm sure but can you explain a bit more what "double the focal length" implies? Are you referring to, like, 200mm?

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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Quote Originally Posted by BadWolf View Post
    Dumb question I'm sure but can you explain a bit more what "double the focal length" implies? Are you referring to, like, 200mm?
    The long time suggestion is 1/focal length for a safe handheld shutter speed. So for a 100mm lens, 1/100 or close is a good start. Most of us do better with a little faster. Suggesting double the focal length would be suggesting 1/200 shutter speed for a 100mm lens. Of course available shutter speeds don't always exactly match lens focal length, its just a starting suggestion.
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    Re: Newbie - shooting night football

    Yep. Sorry. I didn't use correct language. Total lack of sleep. 1/double the focal length is what I should have said. Some suggest using the crop factor as a guideline, so 1/(1.5x focal length) or if you are Dawg Pics zooming to 150mm then my shutter speed would be 1/320th on my camera.

    I saw one video that suggested using 1/500th for football. Anyway, sorry I confused you there. Try taking a few images at different focal lengths at shutter speeds of 1/focal length and 1/(1.5 x focal length) and see if you are happy with the images. Good luck. Let us know how things turn out.
    Last edited by Dawg Pics; 10-01-2019 at 05:24 AM.
    "Remember to gaze up at the night sky because there is a little bit of the cosmos in each of us."


    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
    D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, SB-800. RIP-D100





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