First look at the Nikon D5?

kevy73

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I think Nikon may have dropped the ball on this camera. I haven't used one obviously, but the demo's and test's that I have seen show it to be worse than other far cheaper camera's. Granted, the soul of the D5 is for use in sports and other fast paced environments where 3d tracking and 200 burst @ 12fps are a basic requirement.... but for general photography, even wedding photography which I use 2 D4's, I am struggling to want to upgrade.

The D750 on the other hand, looks amazeballs.
 

Vincent

Senior Member
I had heard the base iso is not so good. DP review, angry photographer, and others.

The point is that my D7000 does better in Dynamic Range then the D5 at ISO 100.
Why this is making such waves is that most people have been saying Canon is no go due to the limited Dynamic Range, which is better in Nikon and Sony.

The fact that Nikon had to put up compromises, probably reading speed of the sensor to get to 14fps vs detail of the reading (dynamic range) is just a reality check, the D5 is still as good as a Canon.

When you take pictures at the right ISO this is no issue at all, you have sufficient dynamic range.
When you take a bad picture at ISO 100, you will have less possibility to recuperate it on the D5.
When you take a sports picture at ISO 12500, you will see why a D5 will sell (as will the Canon 1DX MKII).

I think Nikon may have dropped the ball on this camera. I haven't used one obviously, but the demo's and test's that I have seen show it to be worse than other far cheaper camera's. Granted, the soul of the D5 is for use in sports and other fast paced environments where 3d tracking and 200 burst @ 12fps are a basic requirement.... but for general photography, even wedding photography which I use 2 D4's, I am struggling to want to upgrade.

The D750 on the other hand, looks amazeballs.

I was looking at wildlife photographers: AF as good a 4DS, feels more reassuring. Less missed shots in action. Whitebalance is spot on. Higher detail due to increased pixels. => it does what it is made for
D750 - D810 might be better suited for weddings, but that is not my subject, so difficult to have an opinion. Some pro shootings have been done, I did not hear that photographer complain.
 
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Vincent

Senior Member
Tony Northrup states the D5 has a super AF: https://twitter.com/tonynorthrup/status/717835574057570306

Sadly he fails to compare it to D4S, 1Dx, 5D mk3 who are probable the best before the D5 came and I missed the testing method.
Honestly I believe his goal is to show the 7D MkII is better then the half price D7200, however he misses the D500 will outperform the Canon.

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Does anyone follow:
http://blog.kasson.com/ ?
More questions then answers on how Nikon is using the D5 sensor data to create good results.
 
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rocketman122

Senior Member
all kinds of garbage reviews out there. my best friend who I shoot weddings with says this vs both D4s he has
better color production
WB good with a little over saturated reds
contrast is much better
sharpening and NR much much better
menu has too many functions and hard to navigate
af as I said before-blazing fast and locks with no issue and accurate as phuk
touch screen nice gimmick. but meh
IMO image quality is better than D4s

where people get misinformation from makes me suspicious to who gives the info. most of these reviewers have some interest with their reviews. no way in hell will a flagship be any worse than the predecessor.
except from the F5 to the F6 but thats film and when it started dying out.
 

Vincent

Senior Member
Got this from an other thread, but believe the discussion is better here.
I wouldn't pull out 6k for the camera to be honest, and I probably will wait til it drops down to 3k or so in a few years then buy it..if I really want it.
Cheaper solution will be go for a D4 or D4S if wanting all metal body, or even go for a D3S. ...

I was looking at the Camerastore review on Youtube. They admit their usage does not require a D5, however they were hinting that there is a lot of hype on the improvements. The conclusion is that everything is a little bit better, less correction in extreme conditions, main impact they seems to see is the 4 Mpix extra which gives a better detail.

It actually put me off the D5, even if my purchase also would be around the 3500 EUR mark (second hand) in 2018. I would probably prefer an old underused D4S, cheaper and put some money towards lens upgrades (20mm f1.8 and 300mm PF + TC 1.7).
 

kkchan

Senior Member
If I am still alive in the year 2018, I probably will buy the D5, too bad i sold both of my D2H and D2X few years ago, if not, they will add to my collections :)
My D4 is still a very good camera, at ISO 4000, I hardly notice any noise, plus the video function is fun to play with.
I still shooting with my D3 a lot, for some reason it fits better in my hand than the D4.
The colours from both cameras, compare to my sold D700, they give slightly better colours (less blueish cast). My long gone D70 gave better colour than my D2s (extra red/magenta for taking pictures of people).
 

Vincent

Senior Member
Tony Northrup states the D5 has a super AF: https://twitter.com/tonynorthrup/status/717835574057570306

Sadly he fails to compare it to D4S, 1Dx, 5D mk3 who are probable the best before the D5 came and I missed the testing method.
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The missing data in the quote above on the D5 AF is partially solved in the next video on youtube: Tony & Chelsea Northrup Nikon D500 Review vs Canon 7D Mk II, Nikon D7200, D5

As I let show in the comment before I think Tony Northrup is not neutral and promotes Canon (so I had ignored that video).

The amount of pictures on the D500 in his test make me think he is using different memory cards, I believe the D500 should be closer to the D5 with the 128MB Lexar Professional 2933x XQD 2.0 card.

On a personal note from what I heard the blackout time at 10FPS on the D500 is not a lot, so it would not be an argument to prefer the D5 . Still I have a tendency towards the D5 or D4S over a D500 for clean high ISO.

I do not contest from the video that the Canon 1DX MK2 gives more keepers in OK light conditions then the D5, it seems coherent with the past and the AF technology (missing cross type in Nikon), even if the memory card will influence this, both might have that issue in the test. Nikon is probably better in low light images, but in all conditions the difference between the beasts will be small.
 
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