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  1. #11
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Welcome to the forum. It is a group low on drama and quick to help. I will warn you of only one thing this "hobby" is addictive... not in a bad way post processing was the thing that really got me going. Enjoy!


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  2. #12
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Welcome to the forum!

  3. #13
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Hi, I am back after bit while of more study and practice to show some tiny progress and ask more questions. I was kind of overwhelmed by the big Manual book for so many confusing and unclear (if may say) instructions, especially on how to determine and set right settings. So spent lot time of trial and error... and still scratch head afterward! AW, set out a procedure for shooting night (star) sky: 1. set "M" mode, 2. select "right" speed, apture, and ISO (still have auto iso control on), 3. make "infinity" focus on stars, 4. take shot. (please correct, revise, or add any step or substep) Then I proceeded to practice at non-ideal places, timing, and objects... all still failed in step3. I found all those related articles for help still lack some deep basic details. From most documents and reports I read state that in "M" mode, autofocus do not work. True or not, "focus" setting still has to be changed to "MF" in "M" mode. It's a simple thing for succeeding step3, but took long time and cracking head to figure. We got all bad weather around here (raining) now, so no chance for any night sky shooting practice. Somehow I managed to take this simulated shot in my office room with all light off except some e-devices. The object is the tiny light on a printer machine from some far distance away. I had been able to manually focus on it using the magnifier on the live screen. The shot file is jpeg and I uncarefully deleted it from memory disk after downloaded to computer, so unable to review the settings. I know it's dumb picture to show, but hopefully it's my tiny step to start.

    My other question: How do I bring up the "information display" (the one with three circles for speed, apture, iso) in Live view instantly when I want? I need it in Live view screen, not in viewfinder (I am not there yet). Some time it show up on screen when I don't need it. I tried both "i" and "info" buttons with no success. Thanks for help.
    Oop, Tried upload my file, but it failed! ???

  4. #14
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Wonder what happened to my last post to this thread (after Moderator review) ?

  5. #15
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Wonder what happened to my last post to this thread (after Moderator review) ?
    Approved, you should see it now.

  6. #16
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Hi Marilynne,

    May I ask why my post was moderated? And how come I couldn't upload an image (it said upload failed)? Thanks

  7. #17
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    Re: Newbie's question

    I think you need 10 posts in order to attach an image.

    Shooting mode "M" is just for changing shutter speed, and aperture manually. You have to change the focus mode to manual focus in order to use the focus ring on the lens. Yes, it takes a little practice to get sharp focus using manual focus. A small light in a room is a good way to practice. When you get some good weather, try to focus on Venus or whatever bright star shows up first at twilight. That would be easier than trying to do it on a faint star in the dark. At least, that is what I would do to practice. Just use live view and zoom in. You need a tripod to do this.

    When you are in Live View, the display for the settings will be on the border of the monitor. You can't get the full display that you are talking about unless you take it out of live view.

    If you are shooting star images, then you need take the camera out of auto ISO. Your lens isn't all that fast, meaning it only goes to F3.5, and you probably need to shoot with a smaller aperture than f3.5 for best sharpness. As a result, your ISO setting will likely be up kind of high. It will be trial and error. You can start with ISO 6400 and set the shutter speed to stay open for no more than 20 seconds and see how it looks. Then you adjust from there.

    You just need to keep taking images until you find what works for you in your shooting conditions. Light pollution and turbulence in the atmosphere will affect your images.
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  8. #18
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Thanks, Dawg. Really appreciate your reply and help. Ok, now I am deep in setting "water"... First, set in "M" mode - set focus mode "MF" - set auto ISO off - manually set speed, aperture, and iso - then turn live view and surprisingly see shutter speed won't fix as set and it shows that there is a slow limit which is much faster than I set... what's the catch here?

    Next, turn to "Auto" Mode and reset focus mode to autofocus, but auto iso stay off. The camera seems back to control iso, speed, and aperture automatically although auto iso is left as off. If this is true, then just leave auto iso as off for the sake of convenience?

  9. #19
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Hi Marilynne,

    May I ask why my post was moderated? And how come I couldn't upload an image (it said upload failed)? Thanks
    I have no idea why it was moderated. I didn't see anything in it that would have triggered that.

    Did you try to upload a photo in that post? That could have been the reason.

  10. #20
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    Re: Newbie's question

    Yeah, I did try to upload a photo, but it failed (as Dawg said I haven't written 10 posts yet?) Will be there hoefully soon. Thanks
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