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  1. #11
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by litakelley View Post
    It's uncomfortable when people assume things and give condescending responses like this. I find it offensive and have to point it out that you're assumptions are incorrect.

    I SHOULD be able to use my N/AI-s lenses, but it's not working the way it's supposed to. I'm convinced that this is a model specific problem? Several of the other Nikon DX & FX bodies do not have this problem, which is why I said I regret choosing the D3400. Many of the Nikon DSLR have set non cpu lens data in the menu, the d3400 does not, and Im having this problem with it, that should not be happening according to all the published data out there.

    I clearly stated what mode used, and indicated stops used, so your responses Bob are way out of line..maybe not intentionally, but that's how it appears to me.. You're going to post a photo of the dial in M when I told you the dial was in M mode and I even told you the stops I used??? Seriously?


    FYI.. I have 28yrs experience. Film, photography and television. so you're way off base with your insinuations and assumptions that you think I was shooting with a stopped down lens.. Ugh
    From the sounds of it, you didn't look at the compatibility chart I linked above. At the very bottom of the page, it says:

    Limited Compatibility‡ Exposure can not be metered TTL. Must use a light meter.

    The D3xxx bodies are Nikon's entry level cameras. Other bodies may have that ability, but not this particular series. That means you have to set everything manually.



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  2. #12
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by litakelley View Post
    It's uncomfortable when people assume things and give condescending responses like this. I find it offensive and have to point it out that you're assumptions are incorrect.

    I SHOULD be able to use my N/AI-s lenses, but it's not working the way it's supposed to. I'm convinced that this is a model specific problem? Several of the other Nikon DX & FX bodies do not have this problem, which is why I said I regret choosing the D3400. Many of the Nikon DSLR have set non cpu lens data in the menu, the d3400 does not, and Im having this problem with it, that should not be happening according to all the published data out there.

    I clearly stated what mode used, and indicated stops used, so your responses Bob are way out of line..maybe not intentionally, but that's how it appears to me.. You're going to post a photo of the dial in M when I told you the dial was in M mode and I even told you the stops I used??? Seriously?


    FYI.. I have 28yrs experience. Film, photography and television. so you're way off base with your insinuations and assumptions that you think I was shooting with a stopped down lens.. Ugh
    Wow you figure it out then tell us how you did it 28 years and all you should know everything
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  3. #13
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    What does metering have to do with anything I mentioned or asked? I didn't mention a single thing about metering.. I'm not having an issue with metering.. I don't care about on camera metering, I care about having full manual control of my camera, which is now going back to Nikon for refund. I need a D850 or better.. the hell with this things

    If AF-S DX 50mm at f/1.8 produces a clear, sharp, properly exposed image at 100 ISO, 4k shutter in auto mode, then a 50mm N/AI-s at f/1.4 should not need a 25K ISO with +5 exposure compensation in manual mode. Metering is entirely off topic in this scenario,

    It's daylight shooting, so high ISO should NOT have to be used at all on a wide open f/1.4 lens. Metering is not the issue, so why are you redirecting this discussion into something other than the real issue?

    I'm done here. I contacted Nikon directly since this is NOT supposed to be happening.

  4. #14
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by DONEwiththisplace View Post
    What does metering have to do with anything I mentioned or asked? I didn't mention a single thing about metering.. I'm not having an issue with metering..
    Oh, I'm sorry! In your first post, you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by DONEwiththisplace View Post
    I tried using an N/AI-s lens in M mode, it won't allow A mode.
    It won't allow A mode (Aperture Priority) because the body isn't capable of metering. In Aperture Priority, you set the aperture, and based on the available light, the camera has to come up with the shutter speed and possibly the ISO (if Auto-ISO is set). Hence my comment about metering because that series body isn't designed to perform that way.

    Clear as mud to you, I'm sure.
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  5. #15
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry! In your first post, you said:



    It won't allow A mode (Aperture Priority) because the body isn't capable of metering. In Aperture Priority, you set the aperture, and based on the available light, the camera has to come up with the shutter speed and possibly the ISO (if Auto-ISO is set). Hence my comment about metering because that series body isn't designed to perform that way.

    Clear as mud to you, I'm sure.
    Misunderstanding, sure.. I said it does not work in A mode, because some people with 3200, 3300 or other models may not know this, so I pointed it out

  6. #16
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by DONEwiththisplace View Post
    It's uncomfortable when people assume things and give condescending responses like this. I find it offensive and have to point it out that you're assumptions are incorrect.

    I SHOULD be able to use my N/AI-s lenses, but it's not working the way it's supposed to. I'm convinced that this is a model specific problem? Several of the other Nikon DX & FX bodies do not have this problem, which is why I said I regret choosing the D3400. Many of the Nikon DSLR have set non cpu lens data in the menu, the d3400 does not, and Im having this problem with it, that should not be happening according to all the published data out there.

    I clearly stated what mode used, and indicated stops used, so your responses Bob are way out of line..maybe not intentionally, but that's how it appears to me.. You're going to post a photo of the dial in M when I told you the dial was in M mode and I even told you the stops I used??? Seriously?


    FYI.. I have 28yrs experience. Film, photography and television. so you're way off base with your insinuations and assumptions that you think I was shooting with a stopped down lens.. Ugh
    I'm reminded of the cliché that states that no good deed goes unpunished.

    If you're going to come here seeking help and advice, and then take offense when you receive it, then may Laurence Tureaud have compassion for you.
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  7. #17
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    Re: Using non cpu lenses on the D3400?

    Quote Originally Posted by DONEwiththisplace View Post
    I clearly stated what mode used, and indicated stops used, so your responses Bob are way out of line..maybe not intentionally, but that's how it appears to me.. You're going to post a photo of the dial in M when I told you the dial was in M mode and I even told you the stops I used??? Seriously?
    Uh, no. Saying you use manual mode does not indicate that you clearly knew to use the aperture ring vs the camera dial. Manual mode could be used with the camera dial or the lens ring, depending on the situation. Bob gave a helpful response and you had a very surprising and unhinged response. And then you are going on about metering. YOU mentioned setting exposure compensation in your first post. That leads us to believe you are expecting some metering but there would be no metering with that type of lens. Exposure comp would do nothing so why mention it unless you don't know what you are talking about? I think you misrepresent yourself saying you have 28 years experience. Maybe you have been taking pictures for 28 years, but not really understanding the technology. And then you change your user name like an angry child? Good riddance.
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