D3300 Picture quality not satisfied.

vikash23

New member
Hi,
I bought D3300 and took over 2000 shots. I am not happy with the picture quality when compared with Canon 600D and cannon 700D and Nikon D3100. I have attached some pictures. All the three camera are 18-55mm lens and D3300 sensor is good compared to others.

Do I need to do anything with the setting to have a better picture quality. ? My pictures look so dull and not colorful and bright.

I shoot RAW to have better quality picture.

Mouse over the image to see each picture taken with the respective camera.

Please do let me know how to improve the image quality.

below is the dpreview comparison of canon D700 and nikon D3300.
 

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J-see

Senior Member
You do know shooting RAW does not improve the picture quality but allows you to improve the quality during post processing?

It requires work. If you want them bright or colorful, you have to do that in post.
 
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Daz

Senior Member
As J-See has said, it is brought out in post

No 2 cameras (models) are the same, for example ISO 100, 1/1250 at f8 on all 3 cameras will not yield the same picture from each one ...

You attached images but don't say which are taken with which camera

Learn how to Post Edit properly and you will make the pictures pop
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
Do I need to do anything with the setting to have a better picture quality? My pictures look so dull and not colorful and bright.

I shoot RAW to have better quality picture.
When shooting RAW you have to adjust things like white balance, color, contrast and sharpness yourself. If you shoot JPG, all that processing is done for you by the camera but the files are compressed and they can't be edited to the degree a RAW file can. JPG is faster, but less flexible. RAW files come out of the camera "half finished" but you have total control over how the finished photo looks when you're done.
 

singlerosa_RIP

Senior Member
I'm guessing you mean 60D and 70D? Who knows? Who cares? The camera doesn't matter (until you reach a certain level of proficiency). Composition has a lot to do with picture quality. Most of these shots look like snapshots. No real story to be told, just a picture of a place where someone has been. And, no real post processing to speak of. The flag shot with shallow DOF is the closest to a framable pic from the bunch (IMHO). You might want to go to youtube and look at videos on taking great photos with the D3100. Study the exposure triangle and post processing techniques. Look at good photos and see how there were made. You can't just buy a camera and expect to take great photos.
 
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mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Welcome to the forum,have to ask do you do any PP,i just loaded one of your Nikon shots into ACR clicked auto,whilst not a great edit (not meant to be) it shows what is in your file if you pull it out in PP.

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D3300_3.jpg


No serious editing done just auto in ACR

D3300_31.jpg

 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
The Canon file is just the same,this isnt a result i would aim for but with the one click again it shows how PP changes an image.

Canon_650D_2.jpg


Canon_650D_21.jpg
 

Scott Murray

Senior Member
If you want better quality pictures shoot in better light, I am seeing harsh light in these. Also using a Circular polarising would help as would knowing what settings to use as I see over exposed sections in most of your photos.

Remember the camera is the tool, you control what it does...

And as everyone has said a bit of post processing goes along way to make a photo. If you do not want to PP then shoot Jpeg, but if you want the best photo under the circumstances then shoot RAW and EDIT your 'good' photos.
 

vikash23

New member
Hi
Thanks all for you comment.
I found out what the actual problem is.
When I open the RAW files to view using photo--->rightclick--->windows photo viewer my image gets compressed and looks dull.
Later on I recognised this and tried to open using photo-->rightclick--->photos which is another photo view is windows 8 my pictures are bright and looks good .
I dont know why my pictures are compressed using windows photo viewer.
Now I have updated to the latest NEF codec from nikon website and the problem solved.
 

aroy

Senior Member
Hi
Thanks all for you comment.
I found out what the actual problem is.
When I open the RAW files to view using photo--->rightclick--->windows photo viewer my image gets compressed and looks dull.
Later on I recognised this and tried to open using photo-->rightclick--->photos which is another photo view is windows 8 my pictures are bright and looks good .
I dont know why my pictures are compressed using windows photo viewer.
Now I have updated to the latest NEF codec from nikon website and the problem solved.

You do need any photo viewer. Just load Nikon Vie-NX which came with the camera (or down load it). Open the RAW files and see the difference.

RAW images that come out of the camera are pretty dull. The reason is that they are 12-14 bit images, where as the monitors are 8 bit. So unless you fit the 12-14 bit colour depth to 8 bit of monitor, they will look dull. As far as PP is concerned, you need to set up the following parameters in your PP program (I use Nikon Capture NX-D), to get the best out of your RAW.
. White balance
. Sharpness
. Exposure compensation
. Brightness
. Contrast

If you want vibrant colours which just pop up, try "Vivid" picture control.

As others have said, most of the digital DSLR produce similar looking RAW. It is post processing that brings life to the images.
 

Ta2Dave

Senior Member
If you want better quality pictures shoot in better light, I am seeing harsh light in these. Also using a Circular polarising would help as would knowing what settings to use as I see over exposed sections in most of your photos.

Remember the camera is the tool, you control what it does...

And as everyone has said a bit of post processing goes along way to make a photo. If you do not want to PP then shoot Jpeg, but if you want the best photo under the circumstances then shoot RAW and EDIT your 'good' photos.

Scott are you suggesting RAW only or does RAW+Jpeg make a difference?
 

Daz

Senior Member
Scott are you suggesting RAW only or does RAW+Jpeg make a difference?

If you want to edit the file shoot RAW, if there are times you dont want to edit the image you can use Raw + JPEG and then you can just use the JPEG but have the RAW to edit if you ever want to
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I understand that, I'm curious if the raw files in raw+jpeg are different than just shooting raw.

I like the capture program, and I've been playing with raw therapee as well.
The RAW files will be the same either way. Shooting RAW + JPG just means you'll have two copies of each shot; one will have been processed by your camera (JPG) one wlll require that you process it (RAW).
 

Lalam

Senior Member
I have read in other thread that for jpeg one needs to set in camera sharpness to 7/8. But this seems to be making even my RAW images over-sharpened. Today took a photo with sharpness increased in camera setting. This can be seen in full size RAW in ViewNX 2 on my pc. I suppose ISO 200 should not make the seen difference. Attaching herewith a shot converted to jpeg with 1000px wide and without any processing. The sky is looking way too sharpened. May not be visible due to reduced size jpeg. So does the sharpening setting affects the RAW also?
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Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I have read in other thread that for jpeg one needs to set in camera sharpness to 7/8.
I always suggest +6 or +7 because I think anything more is too much, but that's just my personal opinion. If you think it's too much, though, you can back it off.

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But this seems to be making even my RAW images over-sharpened. Today took a photo with sharpness increased in camera setting. This can be seen in full size RAW in ViewNX 2 on my pc. I suppose ISO 200 should not make the seen difference. Attaching herewith a shot converted to jpeg with 1000px wide and without any processing. The sky is looking way too sharpened. May not be visible due to reduced size jpeg. So does the sharpening setting affects the RAW also?
I believe View NX does apply the in-camera profile to RAW files which would include sharpening. That being said, I'm unclear on what leads you to believe the shot you posted is over-sharpened? The sky appears flat and, with the exception of some wispy clouds, is pretty much featureless. Over-sharpening would show up more prominently in the fine details of the bridge and that I'm not seeing. I'd need to look at the original RAW file to determine anything more.
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