WARNING - READ FIRST - Adobe Creative Cloud 2015 just released

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
Folks, I just downloaded Adobe CC 2015 since it popped up this morning.

READ THIS FIRST BEFORE UPDATING

If you use add-on tools like Nik Collection, Topaz, onOne Perfect Photo, DxO FilmPak or anything else, well, you're screwed. The installation of PS CC 2015 will not carry over installations of 3rd party software (this happened with CC 2014 as well), so you will have to reinstall all your add-ons. The problem is, none of the installation scripts recognize PS CC 2015, and the install deletes your PS CC 2014 software. So, unless you have CS6 you're not going to be able to use those tools directly from PS CC 2015.

You can work around this by invoking the s/w from Lightroom. Save your work in PS so it shows up in your LR catalog. Then invoke the 3rd party s/w which will create a new TIFF file. Open the new TIFF in CC 2015 and then copy it into your working photo as a new layer. Royal PITA, but it's you're only choice if you need to work that way.

I have no idea if things like onOne 8.5 will ever be usable in CC 2015 as it requires them to issue a new installation script for an old product. I'm counting on Adobe to fix this if the 3rd party vendors won't.
 

Felisek

Senior Member
Too late for me. I have already upgraded. All my NIK tools disappeared. What do I do???

I use PS only and I don't want to use Lightroom. I want my NIK tools back!!!
 

Felisek

Senior Member
Panic over. I re-downloaded the NIK installation package (version 1.2.8-0511 from November 2014) and re-installed it. It recognised my new Photoshop CC 2015 and installed properly. Just checked that it works within CC 2015.

Edit: Just a word of caution for everyone else trying this update. NIK collection seems to be working fine for me with the new PS CC 2015, but I only did one quick test with Color Efex Pro. I still have to do more thorough testing this afternoon to confirm that everything is fine.
 
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BackdoorArts

Senior Member
There is a way to keep CC 2014 during install, and a way to get it back if you miss that. It's all here...

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/creative-cloud-2015-updates.html

Thankfully when I reinstalled CC 2014 it had all my links to the old software saved.

I'm "chatting" with folks at Adobe to see what's up with the other stuff.
@Felisek, did you just go to the Nik site and download the latest and just install? I'm afraid it won't recognize the license since I'm pretty sure Google built the license into the download itself.
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
Folks, I just downloaded Adobe CC 2015 since it popped up this morning.

READ THIS FIRST BEFORE UPDATING

If you use add-on tools like Nik Collection, Topaz, onOne Perfect Photo, DxO FilmPak or anything else, well, you're screwed. The installation of PS CC 2015 will not carry over installations of 3rd party software (this happened with CC 2014 as well), so you will have to reinstall all your add-ons. The problem is, none of the installation scripts recognize PS CC 2015, and the install deletes your PS CC 2014 software. So, unless you have CS6 you're not going to be able to use those tools directly from PS CC 2015.

You can work around this by invoking the s/w from Lightroom. Save your work in PS so it shows up in your LR catalog. Then invoke the 3rd party s/w which will create a new TIFF file. Open the new TIFF in CC 2015 and then copy it into your working photo as a new layer. Royal PITA, but it's you're only choice if you need to work that way.

I have no idea if things like onOne 8.5 will ever be usable in CC 2015 as it requires them to issue a new installation script for an old product. I'm counting on Adobe to fix this if the 3rd party vendors won't.


My Lightroom works with Nik.....but that being said, it's screwy the way it loads which tells me it might not work properly. I haven't actually edited with it...just loaded it. Thank goodness I re-installed my old LR 5.7 a few weeks ago and have all of my images on it. Can't trust Adobe to do the right thing so far. Hope it works for everyone.

When I opened PS it didn't even load the editing box that usually pops up. I think for users of PS and Nik, you ARE screwed. I guess I will be dropping out of CC for a while. No sense paying for something I can't use.
 
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BackdoorArts

Senior Member
My Lightroom works with Nik.....but that being said, it's screwy the way it loads which tells me it might not work properly. I haven't actually edited with it...just loaded it. Thank goodness I re-installed my old LR 5.7 a few weeks ago and have all of my images on it. Can't trust Adobe to do the right thing so far. Hope it works for everyone.

When I opened PS it didn't even load the editing box that usually pops up. I think for users of PS and Nik, you ARE screwed. I guess I will be dropping out of CC for a while. No since paying for something I can't use.

See my latest post, and Felisek's. You can keep CC 2014 around, and apparently there's a download from Nik that will install on CC 2015. The latest one I have is from 2013, so I don't know where to get the new one. I have an email in to Nik, but at least that's hopeful. I'm in a chat with Adobe now waiting to hear what they're going to do in terms of supporting the installation of non-current versions of software. I'm assuming that they'll say that it's up to the vendor to make a new install script available.
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
See my latest post, and Felisek's. You can keep CC 2014 around, and apparently there's a download from Nik that will install on CC 2015. The latest one I have is from 2013, so I don't know where to get the new one. I have an email in to Nik, but at least that's hopeful. I'm in a chat with Adobe now waiting to hear what they're going to do in terms of supporting the installation of non-current versions of software. I'm assuming that they'll say that it's up to the vendor to make a new install script available.
Thanks Jake and @Felisek
 

RocketCowboy

Senior Member
This has the potential to be the knife in the side of Creative Cloud if they don't get a handle on it.

That said, I still haven't updated my Lightroom CC install from 5.7 to 6 yet, so it's conceivable that doing the same with Photoshop isn't the end of the world. The problem though is as Chris points out ... if I'm a CC member and get a new laptop, I'm screwed. I have no installation media that I can use to reinstall Lightroom 5.7 or PS CC 2014 if a newer update broke all my Nik/Topaz/etc workflow add-ins.
 

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
I've got Topaz working on CC 2015. I suspect Nik will work once I get an updated install script.

After a very "helpful" chat with Adobe I have been informed that it's not their fault if a plugin manufacturer doesn't issue a new install script for older software to work with their "completely new product". The thing that sold me on CC is that we would get continuous updates in, what seemed to me at least, a rather seamless way. Instead what we're getting is a completely new piece of software once a year. If all you use is Photoshop my response to that is, "Yay!!" But when you rely on plugins, this means you need to either keep up do date with those (thank you, Nik, for a pay once and only once model), or know that at some point you're going to have to stop using it, or jump through hoops in your processing to make it happen.

As I told the rep at Adobe, that's a completely arrogant way of doing business. Even if CC 2015 is a completely new product, I can't imagine the way in which it handshakes with plugins has changed - it's just a two-way file transfer, for god's sake. Why they cannot release a utility (if they can't build it into the install script) that will transfer your plugins is a question I want answered. Even if you have to register them with the CC so they have your product and S/N information. To have to reinstall everything, everytime is ludicrous, particularly when you can't necessarily do that.
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
This has the potential to be the knife in the side of Creative Cloud if they don't get a handle on it.

That said, I still haven't updated my Lightroom CC install from 5.7 to 6 yet, so it's conceivable that doing the same with Photoshop isn't the end of the world. The problem though is as Chris points out ... if I'm a CC member and get a new laptop, I'm screwed. I have no installation media that I can use to reinstall Lightroom 5.7 or PS CC 2014 if a newer update broke all my Nik/Topaz/etc workflow add-ins.

Just hope that google - Nik Tools keeps good records of who bought it. That might come in handy when buying a new computer.
 

RocketCowboy

Senior Member
Just hope that google - Nik Tools keeps good records of who bought it. That might come in handy when buying a new computer.

I'm not as worried about Google and Topaz remembering who bought it. My concern is that Adobe changes something that breaks the plug-ins completely in a future release, and as a CC subscriber I have no way of reinstalling the only/earlier version of the app that works with my needed plug-ins on a new computer. If PS CC 2016 fundamentally changes the interface between it and plug-ins like Nik/Topaz, I can keep CC from upgrading my desktop to that latest version. But if my desktop machine fails and I need to stand up a new one, I can't get CC to install the older version of the app. That's the bigger problem I see ... but then I'm also very likely to refresh my compute platforms every 2 years with my day job.
 

RockyNH_RIP

Senior Member
Jake, thanks so much for the heads-up! You tend to be on top of this stuff and have saved us lots of headaches over the years... It is appreciated more than you will know.


Pat in GA
 

Felisek

Senior Member
@Felisek, did you just go to the Nik site and download the latest and just install? I'm afraid it won't recognize the license since I'm pretty sure Google built the license into the download itself.

No, I found my e-mail from Google when I bought the NIK collection. They send you a download link.

I just tried some other tools and they definitely work fine with PS CC 2015. All you need is just to reinstall NIK collection.
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
No, I found my e-mail from Google when I bought the NIK collection. They send you a download link.

I just tried some other tools and they definitely work fine with PS CC 2015. All you need is just to reinstall NIK collection.

I didn't even find my old e-mails from google. I just downloaded the tools and off I went. Worked perfectly with absolutely no headaches!
@BackdoorHippie
 

Felisek

Senior Member
Quote from NIK collection website:

If you previously had a registered version of the Nik Collection installed on your computer, downloading installing the trial from the homepage will simply update the files for you.
 

wornish

Senior Member
Testing to see if Exif issue fixed in LR

test.jpg

The answer is NO ! LR CC2015 still exporting it incorrectly

To make it worse PS CC2015 now strips off all Meta data when exporting !
 
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