Bite the apple?

J-see

Senior Member
Yesterday while grabbing a screen and pasting in PS I noticed suddenly those colors were wrong. Nothing changed but from the one day to the next this problem surfaced. I've been searching for some time now and while I know something messed with my color profiles, I don't know how, where and when. I suspect one of those sweet Windows updates.

Messing with my color profiles is kicking me in the nuts. It affects everything and I no longer am certain of anything I see. I'm really tired of that crap. Especially changes without warning.

While I intensely dislike the Apple approach, I'm seriously considering giving Windows the finger and doing the switch. When I read stuff out there, Apple is always like buttered bread and dripping honey but I'm not naive enough to believe that. I've seen Apple crash too. Besides a serious investment and their rather totalitarian approach to content, what is there to expect when switching? What's crap and what's annoying?

What are the worms in their Apple?

Oh, if I switch, it's going to be portable so one of their laptops.
 
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Felisek

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I'd been in a similar situation earlier this year. My Windows laptop was ageing and I needed something new. I disliked Apple for the same reasons as you. However, my colleagues at work convinced me to make the move. I don't regret it!

The biggest difference for me is that every Windows machine I had got clogged and slowed down with time. I think Windows registry is the main issue, as it inflates with every installed software and makes the system slower and less responsive. Mac OS is different in this respect. After about 8 months of intensive usage, there is no sign of slowing down. My MacBook Pro is as fast and responsive as new. Photoshop works very smoothly. And some of my colleagues have been using Apples for many years without any sign of slow down.

Also, Apple make some very good hardware. Expensive, but good, and fully integrated with the software.

I guess the biggest worm in the Apple is the price. We probably pay more than we should.

I used to hate Apple until I bit one. Now, I wouldn't give it away for any Windows machine. :)
 

J-see

Senior Member
Windows has become a constant update machine. That's the most frequent task on my computer; downloading and updating. If I don't check and clean my reg at a weekly base, my programs would slow down to turtle speed. I'm used to that annoyance so it didn't bother me that much but this color profile change is too much.

I know a thing or two about computers, build and sold some with all the problem solving included but I've been trying to fix this for hours now and nothing changed. It has been Terrible Tuesday which is when Windows updates for me and even while I allow the downloads, I didn't let it update. Still, it enforces itself and reboots in order to do so. All undesired problems included.

I'm looking at the MBPs now. I could get me another D750 for that money but there's little use in a cam if your computer is crap.

I'm only worried I'll do the switch, pay good money I could buy a lens or cam for and then after two weeks am as annoyed with Mac as I am with PC.
 

J-see

Senior Member
Aren't you running a monitor color correction/calibration program?

I finally discovered the problem and fixed it. Something messed up my PS RGB profile. It's only when I grabbed something with print screen it showed. Everything else worked fine.

But this has been the drop. It's about time to upgrade my system anyways so maybe it would be good to do that drastically.
 

RON_RIP

Senior Member
Windows has become a constant update machine. That's the most frequent task on my computer; downloading and updating. If I don't check and clean my reg at a weekly base, my programs would slow down to turtle speed. I'm used to that annoyance so it didn't bother me that much but this color profile change is too much.

I know a thing or two about computers, build and sold some with all the problem solving included but I've been trying to fix this for hours now and nothing changed. It has been Terrible Tuesday which is when Windows updates for me and even while I allow the downloads, I didn't let it update. Still, it enforces itself and reboots in order to do so. All undesired problems included.

I'm looking at the MBPs now. I could get me another D750 for that money but there's little use in a cam if your computer is crap.

I'm only worried I'll do the switch, pay good money I could buy a lens or cam for and then after two weeks am as annoyed with Mac as I am with PC.
Once you go Mac, you won't go back. It has it's quirks but nowhere near the problems associated with windows. I am an old fogey and even I can operate a Mac. Of course I opted for Applecare and they bail me out when I run into a problem. their support is superb.
 
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Blacktop

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I'm running a 300 dollar Acer Aspire I bought at walmart 3 years ago, with 8gigs of RAM and Win 8.1. As long as I keep it updated I have no problems at all.

I also have a Linux partition for those times that I'm visiting the "dark side" of the web.:grief:
 

paul04

Senior Member
I find that when I update windows the computer slows down bit by bit.

So when I rebuilt my computer a month a go (new motherboard, cpu and memory) and reinstalled windows 8.1, and I turned off updates, the computer is running better than it ever has.
 

Krs_2007

Senior Member
All computers will crash, it's just that windows do it more frequently. I have purchased 4 macs, with the oldest being purchased in 2009. Only upped the memory, but it is running like it was brand new. The memory was only needed for photo processing, everyday use it was fine.

My work computer is windoze and it is slower than I care to try and explain. It's only 3 years old and only has software installed by my company. No Internet downloads and i very seldom surf the net, only our intranet. It's just clogged by the OS, which I doubt Microsoft will ever pull their heads out of their butts long enough to get it right.

I went back to MAC in 09 and unless Apple really screws up then I will always use them.
 

richarddacat

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Apple support is great too.

I had a few quirks with mine recently and talking with them and the Apple Support Community forum I'm up and blazing away.

Basically I emptied 5k cache files and completely remove Norton securityware.
 

Ironwood

Senior Member
We changed over to Apple about 2 years ago, I was dubious at first, but after about 5 minutes I was convinced we had done the right thing, we will never go back to that crap.
Admitedly there has been a few minor problem, mainly with iTunes, but as has been already said, the Apple support is fantastic.

I love the 27" screen for looking at my photos.
 

Ironwood

Senior Member
Have you got written permission from Apple to do the things you want on one or have they changed there attitude.:D
No complaints here.
At our shop we have always used PCs because we need windows for the industry specific programs we need to run. A few months ago another PC died ( they seem to last 2 years in our environment ) we replaced it with a Mac mini, the local Apple shop set it up with windows for us, it is by far the fastest POS in the shop now.
 

J-see

Senior Member
Another question since I'm clueless when it comes to Apple's soft.

I should be able to install my LR version on the Apple so that's probably no issue but is there anything else in regards to soft I need or does soft that comes with the Mac cover the basics?

I'm going to use that one for photography only and drag it along on the road so it doesn't have to serve the same purpose my PC does now. I doubt I can switch my current PS dinosaur to a Mac version so that'll go the way of the Dodo.
 

wornish

Senior Member
This is not meant to be a Windows vs Apple rant.

I switched from Windows XP over 10 years ago and never looked back. Apples simply do what it says on the box. I have never seen "the blue screen of death" or equivalent or had an apple crash on me ever in 10 years.
The only time I had any slow down was when the disk drive was almost 95% full, the system has to do a lot of file swapping in and out of memory then and this does slow it down. The simple fix is either get more storage or remove unneeded files.
Yes, the odd program has crashed but that was mainly down to the program itself, or more usually a Java bug, the system itself just carried on.
Since Apple removed java and also reduced their dependence on Flash things just get better.

The one area I am not so happy with Apple is the move to everything on iCloud which is becoming frustrating. You now have iCloud and Adobe's Creative Cloud the two systems don't work together and are constantly changing / evolving.

I know Windows has improved over the years but I recently used my neighbours Windows 8 laptop, it drove me crazy with all the pop ups trying to help! If you are used to windows, know your way around it, then fine.

I am not an apple fan boy and I know they cost more but for me Apple is worth it today, but... I will keep an open mind.
 
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wornish

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Another question since I'm clueless when it comes to Apple's soft.

I should be able to install my LR version on the Apple so that's probably no issue but is there anything else in regards to soft I need or does soft that comes with the Mac cover the basics?

I'm going to use that one for photography only and drag it along on the road so it doesn't have to serve the same purpose my PC does now. I doubt I can switch my current PS dinosaur to a Mac version so that'll go the way of the Dodo.

The standard apple software you get included for free covers the basics.
You will find it a bit daunting to begin with but its only getting to know the new names.
Most of them can import your windows equivalents but its not always perfect.

Mail for er ..mail !
Safari for browsing the web
Pages - the equivalent of Word for docs etc.
Numbers - for spreadsheets , not as powerful as Excel but good enough for most users.
Preview - for viewing images with some basic editing
Finder - for file browsing and finding your way around the system
Calendar - for appointments etc
Contacts - your address book.

When it comes to Lightroom then you need the Mac version, the windows version is different.
If you are on the creative cloud then its just a case of downloading the mac version of LR and PS.

The one are I am not sure about though is your Lightroom catalogue. Not sure if you can open the windows catalogue when running the Mac version of LR. Perhaps someone else can help there.
 

J-see

Senior Member
I'll have to check but I think the LR DVD installs on both systems. I didn't see anything PC specific on it.

The catalog is less of a problem. I'm notoriously selective when it comes to keeping shots so there's not that much and they're easily moved to an external drive as catalog. If really needed I can save the processed shots as Prophoto TIFFs and keep those with the original NEFs.
 

J-see

Senior Member
I do need an external drive it seems. Apparently that's too low tech to be included these days.

I feel like being warped back into time. I never had so little choice for so much money. ;)
 
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