Testing: Adobe RGB vs. sRGB

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I've always been told that it's better to use the sRGB color gamut for digital photography as general rule and for posting photos online in particular. Recently I've been tempted by the wider gamut of Adobe RGB and wanted to see for myself if there was any reason NOT to use it.

Below are three shots taken with my D7100. Each one was shot in 14-bit RAW, opened in Adobe Camera RAW using the Adobe RGB profile and given the exact same processing (basic adjustments, nothing fancy).

Each photo was then exported to Photoshop where it was resized without any further processing and saved as a JPG.

The whole process was repeated but this time the photos had their color profile re-assigned to sRGB immediately prior to saving as JPG.

From what I can tell, photos look much better when using the Adobe RGB gamut.
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Adobe RGB to Adobe RGB #1.jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as Adobe RGB
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Adobe RGB to sRGB #2.jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as sRGB
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Adobe RGB to Adobe RGB #3.jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as Adobe RGB
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Adobe RGB to sRGB #4.jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as sRGB
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Adobe RGB to Adobe RGB #5 .jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as Adobe RGB
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Adobe RGB to sRGB #6.jpg

^^^ Adobe RGB Saved as sRGB
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Felisek

Senior Member
There are subtle differences between the pictures. The Adobe RGB versions a little bit more punchy on my (calibrated) screen.

In addition to this, you could shoot a second independent photo set to sRGB in-camera and process it in the same way.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
There are subtle differences between the pictures. The Adobe RGB versions a little bit more punchy on my (calibrated) screen.
Agreed... Which surprises me because I've always been told to shoot sRGB because computer monitors don't handle the Adobe profile as well. I haven't calibrated my monitor (I know I should) so it's good to hear from someone who has that you are seeing the same "punchier" color in the Adobe RGB shots that I am. The Adobe RGB shots look better in all three browsers, too, from what I can tell.

In addition to this, you could shoot a second independent photo set to sRGB in-camera and process it in the same way.
I'm thinking about doing exactly that...

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WayneF

Senior Member
We would expect to see differences - not better, but different.

My guess why you are seeing no difference is because Photoshop has the menu Edit - Color Settings, where you tell it to convert all images to sRGB for output (because, that is quite important to do). I would expect if you look in your Exif, you will see the converted sRGB profile specified now.

You would not see any enhanced aRGB in the browser anyway, at most a difference that would look worse in the sRGB browser.
 
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J-see

Senior Member
Mine is calibrated too and there's a reasonable difference between both. aRGB seems to have somewhat warmer colors. Especially the yellow differs. sRGB is very primary while aRGB feels as if there's a slight tint of orange in it.
 
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Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I guess what I'm not understanding is why is sRGB considered the "go to" color profile? It appears to me Adobe RGB is clearly better.

What am I missing?

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J-see

Senior Member
I checked the same individual pixels for their RGB values in both images for blue/yellow/red. I might have mixed them up but it shows they're clearly different.

Yellow:
223, 185
212, 184

Blue
65, 125, 214
88, 124, 210

Red:
122, 61, 66
139, 59, 64
 

Browncoat

Senior Member
I guess what I'm not understanding is why is sRGB considered the "go to" color profile? It appears to me Adobe RGB is clearly better.

What am I missing?

Most printing services aren't set up for Adobe RGB. Yes, overall there is a wider gamut of color. But in order to get the most out of Adobe RGB, you have to use it for the entire process from capture to editing to printing. People who print @ home and control the process from start to finish, can squeeze more out of Adobe RGB and have more vivid color as a result.
 

Felisek

Senior Member
I said "punchier colours", I didn't say "better". I'd struggle to call any of them better. For example the yellow table with wheels looks fully saturated in Adobe RGB, which might be a problem. I wouldn't worry about less saturated colours, as this is something easy to correct. Oversaturation is a problem.

I'm guessing that viewing a wider Adobe RGB gamut on a sRGB screen puts some of the colours at the edge of sRGB space, making them fully saturated. But I don't really understand this, so this is only a wild guess.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I said "punchier colours", I didn't say "better". I'd struggle to call any of them better. For example the yellow table with wheels looks fully saturated in Adobe RGB, which might be a problem. I wouldn't worry about less saturated colours, as this is something easy to correct. Oversaturation is a problem.

I'm guessing that viewing a wider Adobe RGB gamut on a sRGB screen puts some of the colours at the edge of sRGB space, making them fully saturated. But I don't really understand this, so this is only a wild guess.
Sorry, I didn't mean to put words in your mouth...


Oh I've read it... And several other articles much like it. All of them seem to say that for online posting sRGB is the better gamut. I'm not sure I agree with that.


Most printing services aren't set up for Adobe RGB. Yes, overall there is a wider gamut of color. But in order to get the most out of Adobe RGB, you have to use it for the entire process from capture to editing to printing. People who print @ home and control the process from start to finish, can squeeze more out of Adobe RGB and have more vivid color as a result.
So then the only real drawback would be if my printer (and by that I mean the lab I use since I don't do my own printing typically) was not set up to use Adobe RGB?

I appreciate everyone's input, by the way...

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Browncoat

Senior Member
So then the only real drawback would be if my printer (and by that I mean the lab I use since I don't do my own printing typically) was not set up to use Adobe RGB?

Yeah.

As long as your print lab is set up for it, you're good to go. Just change everything to Adobe RGB:
> Color space in-camera
> Lightroom and Photoshop
> Pay special attention to export/save settings

Go the extra mile and request your lab's ICC Printer Profiles. Then everything will be a dead-on match.
 
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