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  1. #11
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    This just my opinion... being a nerd, and software junky, I have all of them...

    The big difference between PS, Elements, and LR is layers... LR doesn't have layers, per se...

    LR is slanted more toward the photographer that wants to adjust the image... without getting into the manipulation aspects of graphics... It started life with the features a photographer needs...

    Elements and PS, natively started out as a graphics program that evolved over time to include photographic concepts... and is slanted more towards the graphic artist that wants to add/create a graphic image...

    Under the skin... coming from the same manufacturer, they all contain the same features. They're just arranged differently...

    Conceptually, all you need to learn/understand is the feature set... "contrast, exposure, wb, cropping" etc, and after that, you can find your way around any of these programs...


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  2. #12
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyelight View Post
    Is LR 5's organizer drastically different from the Elements Organizer 11 or do they do about the same thing?
    LR's Library module is head and shoulders above PSE's Organizer. If all you want to use it for is the preview and browsing functions then they'll both do it. LR adds a myriad of tagging, keyword searching and metadata maintenance options, along with the ability to build collections, publish directly to websites (PSE may do this), predefine various Export formats, and probably other things I'm not using. PSE will allow you to apply tags and organize by folders on your hard drive, but it's not much more than a glorified Explorer/Finder function. LR is a cataloging tool.
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  3. #13
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Here is Adobe's take on comparison of Photoshop vs Elements features:

    Adobe Camera Raw differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements

    Elements is sort of the stripped version.

  4. #14
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    I always considered the organizational abilities of Lightroom to be its real selling point. Its editing capabilities are fine but you can find that in most all image editing software. However, the ability to keep track of multiple catalogues, even catalogues on external drives, is the real power behind the software.
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Quote Originally Posted by WayneF View Post
    Here is Adobe's take on comparison of Photoshop vs Elements features:

    Adobe Camera Raw differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements

    Elements is sort of the stripped version.
    Good info keeps pouring in.

    Where Adobe loses me is how they title the software. I had come to the conclusion that Photoshop is now family of software that includes all the various titles, but no longer a single program.

    Does the title Photoshop refer to one software and Lightroom, Elements, etc are pieces that can be bought separately?
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  6. #16
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    There are two image editors, Photoshop ($600 class) and Elements ($100 class). Both include Adobe Camera Raw (Elements has basics, but is abbreviated).

    There is also Lightroom, a file organizer and Raw editor (not a classical photo editor, but Raw is its own philosophy).

    All three use the same Adobe Camera Raw module, but each organize the screens in their own way. The Raw tools that are shared are the same tools however.

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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyelight View Post
    Good info keeps pouring in.

    Where Adobe loses me is how they title the software. I had come to the conclusion that Photoshop is now family of software that includes all the various titles, but no longer a single program.

    Does the title Photoshop refer to one software and Lightroom, Elements, etc are pieces that can be bought separately?
    Adobe doesn't make it easy...

    The word "Photoshop" in Adobe-ese can refer to one of two things. It can refer to a particular family of products that includes the following: "Adobe Photoshop Elements 12", "Adobe Premier Elements 12", "Photoshop Lightroom 5" and "Photoshop"; although normally Adboe will use the phrase "Photoshop family [of products]" or something along those lines. The other meaning is the specific product named "Photoshop" all by itself.

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  8. #18
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    My version of the differences

    Lightroom = Lightroom
    Photoshop = Photoshop
    Photoshop Elements = Photoshop Lite
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Quote Originally Posted by WayneF View Post
    There are two image editors, Photoshop ($600 class) and Elements ($100 class). Both include Adobe Camera Raw (Elements has basics, but is abbreviated).

    There is also Lightroom, a file organizer and Raw editor (not a classical photo editor, but Raw is its own philosophy).

    All three use the same Adobe Camera Raw module, but each organize the screens in their own way. The Raw tools that are shared are the same tools however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_W View Post
    My version of the differences

    Lightroom = Lightroom
    Photoshop = Photoshop
    Photoshop Elements = Photoshop Lite
    @Dave_W makes perfect sense, but only after reading @WayneF to a clueless one such as I.
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    Re: Lightroom 5 versus Elements 11 / Camera Raw 7.4

    Two very good articles that might help explain the differences:

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