Oklahoma U bans monopods from Football games

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
I'm sure many of you saw the play that injured an Oklahoma player, and destroyed a Canon 400mm f2.8, last weekend (if not, it's in the attached). Well, in the typical over-reaction we've come to expect to single incidents in this country, sports photographers will no longer be able to bring monopods onto the field at OU football games. Not only that, but all equipment must be attached to them at all times - no placing a camera on the ground, etc.

Monopods No Longer Allowed at OU Football Games Because of Lens Crushing Incident

I've watched as experienced photographers deftly handle 2 or 3 cameras over the course of a play, with one being on a MP, and I suspect that if this was really an issue then you'd have seem far more of this in the past. If nothing else, perhaps sideline personnel need to do a better job of pulling some folks back and preserving press access somewhere other than 3 feet from the sideline, which I suspect had far more to do with this.

Hopefully they see the error of their ways and reverse the decision before other schools follow suit. But hey, this is America, and that's not likely to happen before the conference and the NCAA call for similar rules everywhere.
 

480sparky

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Some day, watching Sesame Street will be outlawed because it causes cancer.

Want proof? How many people with cancer watched Sesame Street when they were little?
 
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Krs_2007

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Honestly, I get it. The sidelines and end zone in most of the college stadiums are a lot shallower than pro stadiums. At least the few I was at were. This should be interesting because they won't be able to manage a camera w/400 and 1 or 2 other cameras all attached to their bodies at the same time. The 400 is a beast and needs a monopod. I get the stools should be banned and actually never noticed one with a stool (monopod stool as they called it).

So the over-reaction will create one of two things, less photos for their team or some new creative gadget that will resemble a robot to all of the lenses that will spin around the photographer.... I think I will stick with High School for now. It actually wouldn't hurt to limit the amount of photographers instead of handicapping the photographer.

It is OU after all and Stoops is Stoops, I bet it dies down and he chokes on his words later.
 

PapaST

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It was hard to tell was the lens on a self-standing monopod? I feel bad for the player if he's seriously injured. He might not lay out for another pass like that again.
 

Moab Man

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You never know when one of those monopods sitting around might spontaneously go off. Oh wait, that's the other thing that people overreact to. I sure hope they wrap those football players in bubble wrap so they don't get hurt on the field.
 

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
It was hard to tell was the lens on a self-standing monopod? I feel bad for the player if he's seriously injured. He might not lay out for another pass like that again.

Monopod was set to be used while kneeling (about 3') and was lying on the ground immediately next to the photographer. Just the exact wrong place for the guy to fall on it. It's a tool of the trade that has been on sidelines for decades. Limit the guy to two cameras and make him cradle the one on the monopod in his arms - or simply require them not to lay the monopod down. Here's a shot my wife took of my brother shooting a Rutgers game and I was impressed as hell to watch him seamlessly switch from the long lens on the monopod to the shorter zoom mid-play.

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Pretzel

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It's a tough argument, as it's really a decision made in the interest of player safety, and the thought process behind it is sound. Simons saw the play coming toward him, and you can tell that he moved to protect himself and get out of the way. He was reacting in self preservation mode though, and didn't really even have time to think about grabbing his gear to protect either it or the player... and honestly, I can't even imagine what it would be like to go flying through the air and land on the ground with one of those lenses in my ribs. OUCH! It definitely could have been a lot worse.

To get the record straight, though, monopods are still allowed. As quoted... "Monopods attached to cameras are permissible." This means, I would assume, that set-ups like the one in the pic you posed of your brother in action, are still safe and sound. Tripods, however, along with loose monopods and the monopod stools are now banned from the playing field. Why? Because, just like Simons said in his blog, he wants to be able to get out of of a player's way as quickly as possible when the situation calls for it. That "Fight or flight" type of response doesn't allow for "Gee, I'd better grab all my stuff too" moments, though. Imagine a kicked monopod stool flipping over so the monopod catches a player in the gut, or worse, the throat. Or imagine a player, focusing on the game, stepping onto a lens on the ground, leading to a shattered ankle or torn tendons/ligaments.

I've long been amazed at the number of cords and personnel allowed along the sidelines of football and basketball games, and it's a wonder there haven't been more serious injuries, to tell the truth. Injuries to both players and others. I think the entirety of the rule changes actually reflect some consideration for the photographers as well as the limitation of injury to the players, so it's pretty much a fair mix.

1st statement. "CSC staff has been instructed to make every effort possible not to block the views of working photographers on the field, particularly when play is in progress," and they've been asked to walk BEHIND photog's instead of in front of them. PROTECTED LINES OF SIGHT! I'd bet sport photographers have been dreaming of this for years! If this is enforced, perhaps photographers won't need to jockey around into less than safe areas for their shots as they may have been tempted to do before. Who knows, it may even lead to the creation, perhaps (and this is pure speculation) of maybe protected areas being created for sport photog's going forward, as we all know great sport shots become instant PR. (in this, imagine dugouts, or front row accommodations, perhaps?)

2nd statement. "All field photographers will be required to have any equipment on their person on the sidelines going forward." Sure, perhaps a temporary setback, but with safety in mind. Again, even Simons admitted he was trying to get out of the way as quickly as possible. This rule means, if adhered too, all of his equipment is on the move with him, without a second thought, thus limiting the chance for potential injury. Maybe it means one less lens... one less camera... I can't imagine it will mean no more great shots.

3rd statement. Paraphrased, as it's a simple concept. Certain areas of the field are now off limits. This is actually a rule that I think should have been in place all along, to protect both players and other personnel. I've a HUGE football fan, and oddly enough (you may have noticed) a huge fan of photography as well. I can't tell you how many times, while watching games, I've seen a MASSIVE football player run over a non-massive, non-athletic "someone" on the sidelines. And when I say "run over", I mean PLOWED, SMOOSHED, DEMOLISHED, OBLITERATED, etc. Even cheerleaders at times. Padded superstar bounces up, unpadded somebody does not. They also added in the statement that "OU Athletics will ...ensure that only those individuals with a working function are on the field..."

Granted, Stoops reaction was a bit harsh. He, along with many other college coaches, are very defensive of their players in any situation. (reference Gundy's "I'm 40 and I'm a man" speech) It will all wash over, though, and he'll continue to stop and smile for photog's, as will the players, just like they do now, and their families will continue to scrapbooks their moments in history. The players reaction was top notch, and Simons response/apology was as well.

Every "protection" rule usually comes about from some sort of accident, and this isn't any exception. It's not a debilitating change, and I'm sure photog's will adapt quickly. Then again, what do I know? I'm definitely not a professional sports photographer, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express a time or two in my life.
 

STM

Senior Member
As Ron White (the comedian) says, "you can fix most things but can't fix stupid"

I know how to fix this stupidity quick like and in a hurry. Have one of the knuckleheads who came up with this nonsense stand for 4 quarters holding my D700 and 600mm f/4 AIS up WITH NO SUPPORT. That is about 17 lbs; 3 for the camera and 14 for the lens.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
As Ron White (the comedian) says, "you can fix most things but can't fix stupid"

I know how to fix this stupidity quick like and in a hurry. Have one of the knuckleheads who came up with this nonsense stand for 4 quarters holding my D700 and 600mm f/4 AIS up WITH NO SUPPORT. That is about 17 lbs; 3 for the camera and 14 for the lens.

A small helium balloon. :cool:
 

Krs_2007

Senior Member
Monopod was set to be used while kneeling (about 3') and was lying on the ground immediately next to the photographer. Just the exact wrong place for the guy to fall on it. It's a tool of the trade that has been on sidelines for decades. Limit the guy to two cameras and make him cradle the one on the monopod in his arms - or simply require them not to lay the monopod down. Here's a shot my wife took of my brother shooting a Rutgers game and I was impressed as hell to watch him seamlessly switch from the long lens on the monopod to the shorter zoom mid-play.

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That's cool Jake, that would be the big show for me.... I watch the photographers more than games now. They really are impressive to me.


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Eyelight

Senior Member
The problem is there is no room on the outside of the outer lines where the media is supposed to be. They're fudging the rule book and you can't ding the photographer if you allow them to be inside the line.

Sad thing is the reason there is no room is the seats are too close to the the sidelines and end zone, because seats are more important than safety.

All my opinion of course, although it is mostly fact. Does that make it a factpinion or an opiniact?
 

skater

New member
According to this, monopods for cameras are still allowed. It's monopods for sitting on that aren't (I didn't know any such thing existed).

No tripods are permitted on the field at any time. This includes monopods that are utilized to sit on during games. Monopods attached to cameras are permissible.
 

AC016

Senior Member
I watched the video clip in the article over and over again. The player tripped (may have fallen down anyhow with the way he was landing from his jump) over the orange goal marker (not even sure that is what it is called). Falling down from the trip, he then ran into the photographer, then he fell on the camera. Does anyone have any evidence that it is the camera that injured him? It seems more likely that him tripping and then falling onto a hard surface the way he did, is what injured him. I just don't see it. If this player was "injured" by a camera, i suggest he chooses another sport to play.
 
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