D800e vs d600

Scott Murray

Senior Member
Ok here are my shots from the same frog with the same settings (Only difference is flash output I think)... Also a rarity for me is that these all are straight out of camera...
I must thank the frog for being so patient (4 shots Oz )

D600

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D800E







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Marcel

Happily retired
Staff member
Super Mod
You probably would get a larger print with the 800E, but the 600 is no slouch either. I think for most amateur/semi-pros out there the D600/610/750/7100 24MPs a quite enough. Since I've gotten down from the 24MP or the 600 to the 16MP Df, I'm not missing any pixels so far and I'm gaining low light quality. Since nothing is perfect, sometimes it's worth it to save money on a camera body and invest in great glass instead.

Very nice shots Scott by the way.
 

Fred Kingston

Senior Member
Nice shots Scott... Since there are multiple variables between you and what I see... What conclusions did you reach by this small test? Do you see a significant difference between the two cameras? If not, have you tested other parameters to see at which point you'd start to see a difference????
 

Scott Murray

Senior Member
You probably would get a larger print with the 800E, but the 600 is no slouch either. I think for most amateur/semi-pros out there the D600/610/750/7100 24MPs a quite enough. Since I've gotten down from the 24MP or the 600 to the 16MP Df, I'm not missing any pixels so far and I'm gaining low light quality. Since nothing is perfect, sometimes it's worth it to save money on a camera body and invest in great glass instead.

Very nice shots Scott by the way.
I think most of the time people think (including myself) that a better camera will do a better job and make me rich. This is not always the case, quite often the camera that makes a person rich is the one they have with them and they can use right there right then. Editing has come so far as to make a shit pic look good so long as it conveys the message :) .
 

Scott Murray

Senior Member
Nice shots Scott... Since there are multiple variables between you and what I see... What conclusions did you reach by this small test? Do you see a significant difference between the two cameras? If not, have you tested other parameters to see at which point you'd start to see a difference????
I posted this for those looking for a better camera, is there a significant difference? Yes there are a few. The D600 fires faster than the D800E. But this is not about that. This is about what we see. I do not think there is enough difference in both cameras to warrant an upgrade at internet level. At print level yes the more MP will help. But we are becoming more and more internet driven. I am sure I could take a BAD photo with the D800E and I would get votes for the d600. So the question should really be, am I using the camera to its full potential. If not then why not? And then get my arse into gear and learn more ;)
 

Scott Murray

Senior Member
And the thing about photography and which has been a recent debate, I for one think if we get it all right. Light, exposure, ISO etc. we do nothing in post and end up with a keeper, or we under expose and end up with shit, or we over expose and end up with shit. What is your preference?

SOOC

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Scott Murray

Senior Member
I was talking about what you "see"... NOT the difference in features. :)
@jdeg please fix replying to qoute and double clicking and grey out photo manager please as it is annoying me.

ok 4th time lucky, if you look at these two photos which I cannot enlarge due to a script error. You will see at the resolution we are looking at here there is not much difference.

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Blacktop

Senior Member
@jdeg please fix replying to qoute and double clicking and grey out photo manager please as it is annoying me.

ok 4th time lucky, if you look at these two photos which I cannot enlarge due to a script error. You will see at the resolution we are looking at here there is not much difference.

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Yes it is annoying , but there is a way around it.
Reply to quote, then upload pics. Do not double click pics to make them larger. Just click reply. Then click "edit", and then you can double click to make larger.
 

Blacktop

Senior Member
I think most of the time people think (including myself) that a better camera will do a better job and make me rich. This is not always the case, quite often the camera that makes a person rich is the one they have with them and they can use right there right then. Editing has come so far as to make a shit pic look good so long as it conveys the message :) .

Well almost. An uninteresting pic will always be uninteresting no matter what you do to it in post.
Also, not much you can do with an out of focus shot in post.
 

J-see

Senior Member
And the thing about photography and which has been a recent debate, I for one think if we get it all right. Light, exposure, ISO etc. we do nothing in post and end up with a keeper, or we under expose and end up with shit, or we over expose and end up with shit. What is your preference?

I think it's a matter of personal preference and habit. Anyone having shot SLR knows that there was less to little room for error when taking the shot, especially when you didn't do darkroom. Today it is a different matter and with the technology present, in the cam and as software, there's more room for error except at certain levels.

I know both world, the not so forgiving past and the forgivable present. Yet I am practical about it. What matters to me is getting the shot and getting the data but I prefer to put my main focus on the shot itself. I don't bother about white balance, contrast, saturation etc because I know I can do that afterwards as easy and as good as before. The less I have to waste time with, the more there is to shoot. I managed to move ISO to post too and if in the future even more can be done in post, I will do so.

What I find relevant is framing the shot, getting the focus, finding the composition and have a good time while doing. All the rest was relevant because I had no choice in the past. Now I do, and I prefer to make those decision while hanging on my couch drinking coffee.

But to each their own.
 

SkvLTD

Senior Member
The better the body, the more you can trust it with like AF and low-light capability. Pixels can help retain sharpness after noise reduction. I for one would want nothing less than 810/Df/D4 one day, to fully be able to trust the camera with exposure/low-light performance and AF. 600 is solid, but wasn't built with the utmost in mind.
 
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