Mirrorless vs DSLR

Michael J.

Senior Member
Cos of Ricks, Marcels, and som eother memeberrs thread I was asking myself about Mirrorless or DSLR.

I am just reading this article:

Mirrorless vs DSLR

If i upgrade to a new camera I have to understand the difference. Hopefully I am going to understand this article.


I am very impressed with this:

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What was the big factor that you guys have chosen a Mirrorless Camera, and what will be the biggest reason why you will choose a Mirrorless if you change to a one?
 

Rick M

Senior Member
I wanted a slightly smaller kit than Fx or Dx, The EM-1 body is slightly smaller than a Dx body, but the lenses are much smaller. The Oly m4/3 rds new pro lenses are about half the size of the Nikon trinity. I also wanted the weather sealing shown above (same combo I now have) and a great pro lens lineup. I have the first Oly pro of the trinity (12-40 2.8 Fx=24-80) the quality is superb. In November they are releasing a 80-300 2.8 pro and next year the 14-28 2.8 comes out.
 

Phillydog1958

Senior Member
I won't really indulge the mirrorless/DSLR debate. It's a personal decision. The video was done by one of my favorite product reviewers -- Blunty. He's good. He also gave the Nikon 1 V2 a great review. I respect his opinion.
 

PapaST

Senior Member
I wanted a slightly smaller kit than Fx or Dx, The EM-1 body is slightly smaller than a Dx body, but the lenses are much smaller. The Oly m4/3 rds new pro lenses are about half the size of the Nikon trinity. I also wanted the weather sealing shown above (same combo I now have) and a great pro lens lineup. I have the first Oly pro of the trinity (12-40 2.8 Fx=24-80) the quality is superb. In November they are releasing a 80-300 2.8 pro and next year the 14-28 2.8 comes out.

How are the prices on the pro lenses? I know I can look it up... I'm just lazy. :)
 

PapaST

Senior Member
Thanks Rick M and Marcel. Sorry, didn't want to get off track.

Mirrorless vs DSLR for me is pretty simple. I believe mirrorless is the natural evolution of an interchangeable lens camera. It's not a matter of IF I'll make the change but WHEN.

- For me I prefer the ergo feel and size of a medium-sized DSLR. Take for instance a skateboard. I can make a skateboard smaller and lighter and would benefit when carrying and packing it away. But I prefer the current size. My feet need a certain amount of space to fit on the board. And they need to be a certain amount of distance apart for me to feel in control of the board.
- I'm waiting on a larger lens base to choose from. I don't need every single lens but I want to have the choice.
- I like having a viewfinder but I'd like to see that tech evolve a little more. Quicker response times when placing your eye to the viewfinder and if possible better resolution. I like what a mirrorless camera can do as far as previewing what the picture will look like.
- I want dual card slots

The potential for innovation with mirrorless is mouth-watering.

I should add that I mean when I'll make the "complete" change. I use mirrorless now along with DSLR and just use what suits my needs.
 
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J-see

Senior Member
- For me I prefer the ergo feel and size of a medium-sized DSLR. Take for instance a skateboard. I can make a skateboard smaller and lighter and would benefit when carrying and packing it away. But I prefer the current size. My feet need a certain amount of space to fit on the board. And they need to be a certain amount of distance apart for me to feel in control of the board.

That's pretty important for me too. I got decent hands and couldn't live with a Nancy cam I'd crumble between my fingers like a biscuit. Size matters. ;)
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Michael the type of pictures you take at the moment would work as well with either type IMO,the only area i would question is if your daughter continues with sport and you want to take action pictures i honestly do not know if current EVFs are up to the task,maybe a user could comment.
 

Michael J.

Senior Member
Mike, I think there are lots of event shots are coming such as swimming, dancing, stage performance, etc. I wanna be prepared for those events. I wanna practice as well.

That's why I am thinking what to do. I don't want miss my daughters action life
 

Eduard

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'Cause of Rick's, Marcel's, and some other members thread I was asking myself about Mirrorless or DSLR.

What was the big factor that you guys have chosen a Mirrorless Camera, and what will be the biggest reason why you will choose a Mirrorless if you change to a one?

I'll throw my two cents into the discussion. I talked jdeg into created the Mirrorless Forum 2 1/2 years ago. (Sidebar: Holy cr*p has it really been that long?) I had been playing around with an Olympus E-PL1 as a travel camera during business trips before acquiring a Nikon 1 V1. I'm now shooting a Nikon 1 V2. After waiting for a pro-level upgrade for the D300, last year I seriously considered moving to an EM-1 as Rick recently has done. I even borrowed one. Instead I purchased a used D800. I lead with all of this to indicate your question is an increasingly common one.

For me, the EM-1 is the closest yet to a pro-level experience in a smaller body. Though I like EVF, there is still a slight lag. I find the focus responsiveness better on the DSLR. I haven't tried the Sony a7R which could possibly be "it".

I'm extremely fortunate that I can afford two systems. I travel a lot for work but can't bring a full DSLR with me to customer sites. I can easily pack a mirrorless system to get out of the hotel when possible. The size of the Nikon 1 system lends itself very easily to this approach. I'm happy with the system and results. Bottom line is that in my circumstance, mirrorless supplements my DSLR.

Coincidentally, I recently printed a couple images from my mirrorless system. My wife and I frequently travel for pleasure and have a trip coming up in a month. She was so impressed with the prints that she asked if she can use the V2 with the 10-100mm lens instead of her P&S. I'll put the camera in P, set auto ISO and let her go. An advantage to mirrorless is that it is less intimidating to a non-photographer.

I may eventually end-up with one system which would probably be mirrorless. That day is still a few years away though.
 

Wolfeye

Senior Member
Size for me.
Fuji offers smaller camera bodies. With a dx sized sensor.

I just bought the X-T1 with 18-135mm lens. The lens is gigantic and weighs a ton. The fact is, the bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens has to be. Excepting Canon's EOS-M, which seems to be the exception.
 

PapaST

Senior Member
I just bought the X-T1 with 18-135mm lens. The lens is gigantic and weighs a ton. The fact is, the bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens has to be. Excepting Canon's EOS-M, which seems to be the exception.

That is interesting, I never really thought of it in that way. It makes sense. I would think with the flange being closer this could change how long the lens needs to be in order to introduce light to the sensor and therefore make some lenses lighter. But I guess that it's also dependent on how large the opening is relative to the distance of the opening to the sensor. My brain hurts.
 

AC016

Senior Member
That's pretty important for me too. I got decent hands and couldn't live with a Nancy cam I'd crumble between my fingers like a biscuit. Size matters. ;)

Funny :) Don't you shoot with a D3XXX, the smallest of the Nikon DSLRs? Both my cams have full metal bodies, i don't think you would be able to crush them like a biscuit. ;) Besides, the size of a cameras body is never relevant to what a photographer can produce.
 

AC016

Senior Member
I just bought the X-T1 with 18-135mm lens. The lens is gigantic and weighs a ton. The fact is, the bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens has to be. Excepting Canon's EOS-M, which seems to be the exception.

The Fuji 18-135 weighs the same as the Nikon 18-140. Both lenses are for APS-C sensors. "Gigantic" and "weighs a ton" is a bit of an exageration.
 
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