CX: Ellen Wyman (feedback please)

kawaracer

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CX Overijse 2015_104klein.jpg

Our national sports CX.
This from the race in Overijse last December
more pics
 

kawaracer

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Thanks to the viewers and likers. I'd love to get some feedback on what can improve, The CX season is almost over but I plan to visit some road and Mountainbike races.
 

Moab Man

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Here in the states we really don't see cyclocross so it would be unfamiliar to a great chunk of the members I suspect.

The photo is fine, but it's boring. You need a location where there's some action - this picture is about the same as riding down a sidewalk all decked out in your race gear. You need to find a location crossing through a mud puddle, a nasty muddy climb, the terror in a face going through rocks at a high speed. One of my races, when I lived in Germany, they had us crossing a FREAKING COLD river. It was not necessarily fast moving, but water has a lot of force. The river bed was covered in slick rounded rocks. This setting was amazing for spectacular shots - wipe outs, the cold shock on the face, seeing the bike half submerged with the rider fighting his/her way through.

Find a better location. It's like a saying often said about photography - If you want to take an interesting photograph then stand in front of interesting stuff.

I hope this helps.
 
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kawaracer

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Thanks, The location I choose was on the hills in the forest, just in front of a corner. It wasn't that muddy that day, no mud on legs and faces. My focus was on the concentration in the expression. I've photo's that are more close up and photo's exact in the turning. Maybe these less boring. exp 1 exp 2
 

Moab Man

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Understand my comment was a critique and not a criticism. Sometimes there just isn't something to shoot.

The first shot at the top of the thread is just boring.

Your next shot "exp 1" was better. The in closer just put me more in touch.

The last shot "exp 2" is the best. The muscling in the legs, look on the face (concentration) of where he is going, and I can feel the angle of the descent.

To my original point, sometimes there just isn't much to work with.
 

Ironwood

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Good points raised by Moab.
I would like to see a bit of the track in front of the rider, even a meter or so of dirt or rocks would make all the difference IMHO. I think he just needs to look like he is going somewhere.
 

kawaracer

Senior Member
Understand my comment was a critique and not a criticism. Sometimes there just isn't something to shoot. ....
.....To my original point, sometimes there just isn't much to work with.
My motto is always been 'To try = to learn' and I try to do better by asking for feedback and critique, that's why I Joint nikonites. So I post my pics without much explanation to avoid to influence the feedback but afterwards I try to explain how or why I made this pic
In the first shot I van see that it is technically OK and I like the repetition in the background en the expression, but I also feel there is something missing to be the top shot but I can't put my finger on it.
In exp 1 is (for me) all about the expression but her hand got just out of the frame.
Exp 2 is indeed from an other level. It is one of the elite men, and there is a world of difference with the women elite. Everything goes much faster and more on the edge and that gives more 'spectacular' pics. Not that I could do what those women do, my greatest respect to them.
@ Ironwood something like this?
 
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