How to size up a macro lens?

gustafson

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I'm new to DSLRs and am a bit confused about how to tell a good macro lens based on specs. For one, there are primes across a range of focal lengths (40, 60, 90, 105, 135, to name a few) that are macro capable. Is it safe to assume longer lenses are better at macro? Then, there are some zooms are macro capable, but does one assume primes are superior here? Also, I'm not sure I understand the implication of the magnification spec on macros. Is higher magnification better? Or is there a sweet spot?

Finally, if you could recommend the best value macro prime lens for DX, which would it be?

Thanks!


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Fred Kingston

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One is NOT better than another. The differences are only indicative of how close to the object you can focus... Different applications require different focal lengths... The term "macro/micro" in the photography universe is a rather nebulous term... with regard to size... A closeup shot of a doll's face is considered a macro as well as a shot of the occlusions in a diamond.. Having said all that... the 60mm, 90mm, and 105mm primes seem to get wide acceptance for general photography use...
 

gustafson

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Thanks for the heads up on the Sigma. If I might ask, what sets it apart from its competitors? The other thing, it's seems like it is spec'd for full frame, but can I assume it works great on DX?


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paul04

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Thanks for the heads up on the Sigma. If I might ask, what sets it apart from its competitors? The other thing, it's seems like it is spec'd for full frame, but can I assume it works great on DX?


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Works fine on my D7100,
 

Horoscope Fish

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Thanks for the heads up on the Sigma. If I might ask, what sets it apart from its competitors?
In short, the Sigma 105mm has it all. It's AF is fast, accurate and quiet. The overall IQ, at pretty much any aperture, is fantastic if not unmatched. Manual focusing is smooth and precise. It's also about $300 cheaper than its Nikon equivalent. In fact, this lens is SOOO good it almost got me into doing macro photography.

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The other thing, it's seems like it is spec'd for full frame, but can I assume it works great on DX?
You assume correctly.
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nickt

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I have the Tamron 60mm. Some macro things I learned along the way....

If it says 1:1 reproduction ratio, that means the real life subject is projected same-size on the sensor at your closest focus distance.

Internal focus = the overall lens body length does not change as you focus.

External focus = Body length does change with focus and you need to be careful you don't bang into your subject. Not a big deal really, just something to be aware of.

Minimum working distance = minimum distance from the front of lens to the subject. In other words, "how close to my subject do I need to be to get a 1:1 shot?"

Minimum focus distance = a confusing way of describing minimum working distance. It is the distance from the sensor plane to the subject. So you need to subtract the length of the lens to get your minimum working distance.
 

Marcel

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I own the Sigma 105 (older version without VR or OS) so I'm a bit prejudiced. What I like about it is it's price, weight and sharpness.

I rarely use auto-focus when doing macro so for me, the auto-focus speed is irrelevant.

I stayed away from the shorter focal lengths because when you get too close you usually scare the bugs you might want to photograph and, most important, you start cutting the light from your subjects.

As far as sharpness between different lenses, I think they pretty well do the job. The big thing is that at a very close distance the DoF is so so small that the unsharp pics are usually the user's fault.
 

salukfan111

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My money would be on the Sigma 105mm macro.
The angry photographer only likes 3 lens that aren't named Nikkor and the Tokina 100mm f 2.8 is one of those. Many others believe is it is the best macro available. I'm saving up money for it as well but may just use Nikkor
 

aroy

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I'm new to DSLRs and am a bit confused about how to tell a good macro lens based on specs. For one, there are primes across a range of focal lengths (40, 60, 90, 105, 135, to name a few) that are macro capable. Is it safe to assume longer lenses are better at macro? Then, there are some zooms are macro capable, but does one assume primes are superior here? Also, I'm not sure I understand the implication of the magnification spec on macros. Is higher magnification better? Or is there a sweet spot?

Finally, if you could recommend the best value macro prime lens for DX, which would it be?

Thanks!


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There are quite a few technicalities involved when selecting Macro Lenses

1. Working Distance. This depends on focal length, the longer the focal length the farther away you can be from the object. This has both its advantages and disadvantages. Longer lenses will ensure that the object mostly insects will be far away from the lens and not be spooked. The down side is that longer lenses will require better flash system and will increase the chance of camera shake as small tremours will be amplified. On the other hand shorter focal lengths will give shorter distance, which is excellent for flowers, but ma spook insects. In some cases the too short working distance will obstruct natural light.

2. Chromatic aberration. For the sake of DOF, most macro shots are at high F numbers. That results in softening of the image due to diffraction. What we generally ignore is the contribution of CA. A high CA can soften the image faster, as the diffraction will have not only diffraction fringes but also CA fringes. Some lenses are known to have a high CA, very few are Apochromatic, that is the CA is practically ignorable. Apochromatic lenses cost a lot more, but will give razor sharp images upto F16, before diffraction softening starts.

3. Flat field. Most lenses have a curved field of focus. In case you are shooting planar objects - stamps, coins etc, curved field of focus will render the edges a bit soft.

4. AF. With DOF in most macro shots very thin, most of macro shooters resort to manual focusing, as AF is too iffy. So if you use the lens purely for macro AF is not necessary. But if you use it for general photography also - 105mm to 200mm macros are used a lot for portraits, then AF is a useful feature.

5. VR. Utility of VR in macro is debatable. For some it is heaven sent as VR can compensate for hand shakes and small camera vibrations, but if you are shooting with tripod or have rock steady hands, then you can dispense with VR.

Now depending on your target of macro photography here is how the lenses are stacked :-

40mm. It is a DX lens, good enough for flowers and other inanimate objects. Too short for insects.
55mm. It is MF lens.
60mm. It has flat focus field, so a must have for stamp, coin and flower shooting.
85mm. It is a DX lens. Much cheaper than the FX 105mm from Nikon.
90mm & 105mm. General purpose macro lenses, neither too long nor too short. Most popular buy. Just check various iterations, some have more CA than others. Some may not be 1:1. WHile some are MF only.
150+. Best used for insects and portraits. Again check for CA and other aberrations.

Zeiss 135mm F2 APO. Though this does not do 1:1, it is one of the finest lenses for close up photography. The practical lack of CA will give you sharper images by a long shot, compared to other macro lenses.

Beyond the current popular range lies the realm of expensive purpose built lenses from Coastal Optics and other firms specialising in Industrial lenses. You may look them up on the net.
 

salukfan111

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I've taken some bug shots with a 300mm f/4.5 edif. I have an extension tube just showing up in the mail that seems to have cut the minimum distance in half. Here is without and this weekend I'll catch a bug with the sun out using the extension tube.
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Bill16

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I have the Nikkor af 105mm f2.8 D lens and it work very well, and is fairly reasonably priced used! But it has no focus motor inside, so it is manual focus unless your camera body has afocus motor built into it.
Here is a few examples from it.

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