2 questions about the SB-700 flash!

rocky89

Senior Member
Sorry if this seems as a rather dumb question, but as I understand, the flash unit comes with 2 colored filters. What purpose does that serve, I mean how does it affect the way the photo comes out? Also, what is the minimum and maximum range of the flash?

Thank you.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
The colored filters are used to correct for artificial light situations, like florescent.

The minimum/maximum range of a strobe depend largely on the f/stop and ISO used. The guide number (GN) is a standardized number used to determine if the output of one unit is greater than another.
 

rocky89

Senior Member
The colored filters are used to correct for artificial light situations, like florescent.

Do you have any sample shots in which I can have a look at how the photos come out with filters?

The minimum/maximum range of a strobe depend largely on the f/stop and ISO used. The guide number (GN) is a standardized number used to determine if the output of one unit is greater than another.

I see. Thank you. :)
 

rocky89

Senior Member
I don't have the flash, but I am thinking of getting it. :) If I can't afford one come time for my trip to Australia, I'll go with the SB-400. :)
 

Phillydog1958

Senior Member
As Jack just posted, you gotta read the manual. At least skim through it. Doing so, will quicken your learning curve and understanding your flash will come easier. If you're the type who hates reading instructional literature, you can also view instructional videos on Youtube. But, the manual has it all in there. The green is for florescent and amber is for tungsten lighting. Good luck.
 

fotojack

Senior Member
I don't have the flash, but I am thinking of getting it. :) If I can't afford one come time for my trip to Australia, I'll go with the SB-400. :)

Seriously, you'll be much happier with the SB-700. If you get the SB-400, you'll wish you had spent your money wisely the first time. Ask anyone who owns an SB-700. They absolutely LOVE it!
 

rocky89

Senior Member
Seriously, you'll be much happier with the SB-700. If you get the SB-400, you'll wish you had spent your money wisely the first time. Ask anyone who owns an SB-700. They absolutely LOVE it!

Thanks. :) I'll be attending a convention in Aus, and I'll be in a seat near the stage. With the D7000, what is the minimum range of the flash? Don't want to blind anyone. :p
 

WhiteLight

Senior Member
Seriously, you'll be much happier with the SB-700. If you get the SB-400, you'll wish you had spent your money wisely the first time. Ask anyone who owns an SB-700. They absolutely LOVE it!

I've seen everyone singing praises of the sb700, but in the same breath, say that the sb910 is better.
Apart from the fact that it allows multiple slaves, has more power, better battery backup is there any reason one may choose the 910 over the 700??
 

fotojack

Senior Member
I've seen everyone singing praises of the sb700, but in the same breath, say that the sb910 is better.
Apart from the fact that it allows multiple slaves, has more power, better battery backup is there any reason one may choose the 910 over the 700??

My 700 allows for multiple slaves as well. Yes, the 910 has more power...but not THAT much! :)

The reasons some people choose the 910 over the 700 is:

They have more money. :)
They can write it off as a business expense. :)
It's bigger and heavier, so for some...it looks "cool" and more professional. ;)
Last but certainly not least.....they have more money. :)

Consider this: the 900 AND the 910 have overheating issues that are well documented. The 700 has no such issues.
The 700 is what I like to call an "idiot proof" speedlight. It is THAT easy to operate.
But....far be it from me to suggest to anyone how they should spend their hard earned money. :) I just hate seeing people waste it.
 

rocky89

Senior Member
I've seen everyone singing praises of the sb700, but in the same breath, say that the sb910 is better.
Apart from the fact that it allows multiple slaves, has more power, better battery backup is there any reason one may choose the 910 over the 700??

Not really, I don't require the extra power. :)
 

MrF

Senior Member
Rocky, those filters are to match the color temperature of the flash to the color temperature of the ambient light. Our digital cameras are very good at figuring out white balance, but only if the scene is lit roughly the same. The output of a flash is very close to daylight and you'd use the filters to match it to florescent (green) or incandescent (orange) light. Check out the Lighting 101 section on the Strobist's website. There's some really great info in there that helped me out when I was getting back into this.

Also, I have an SB-700 and love it. It's been perfect for all my needs to this point. My prior experience with flashes was with a Vivitar 272 and an SB-15, and what the SB-700 offers is worlds beyond both of those.
 
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WhiteLight

Senior Member
My 700 allows for multiple slaves as well. Yes, the 910 has more power...but not THAT much! :)

The reasons some people choose the 910 over the 700 is:

They have more money. :)
They can write it off as a business expense. :)
It's bigger and heavier, so for some...it looks "cool" and more professional. ;)
Last but certainly not least.....they have more money. :)

Consider this: the 900 AND the 910 have overheating issues that are well documented. The 700 has no such issues.
The 700 is what I like to call an "idiot proof" speedlight. It is THAT easy to operate.
But....far be it from me to suggest to anyone how they should spend their hard earned money. :) I just hate seeing people waste it.

Have you by any chance written this anywhere else Jack?????
I just had a serious Deja-vu moment... i almost knew what was written in the next line

Here, the price difference between the two is around $180.
I've seen people saying you can buy 2 awesome 700s for the price of one 910.... which obviously isn't the case

If you can't articulate WHY you need a 910 over the SB-700, buy the SB-700.

...

Well, at the moment i know zilch about flashes & lighting and all that dirty stuff..
So i would be really incapacitated to answer that due to serious lack of knowledge ;)
But i do know if my photography has to get better i need to play around with lighting...

If i may, what would be the situations that the SB910 would work better? or for whom?

Sorry OP.. i seem to be highjacking your thread
 

fotojack

Senior Member
Have you by any chance written this anywhere else Jack?????
I just had a serious Deja-vu moment... i almost knew what was written in the next line

Here, the price difference between the two is around $180.
I've seen people saying you can buy 2 awesome 700s for the price of one 910.... which obviously isn't the case



Well, at the moment i know zilch about flashes & lighting and all that dirty stuff..
So i would be really incapacitated to answer that due to serious lack of knowledge ;)
But i do know if my photography has to get better i need to play around with lighting...

If i may, what would be the situations that the SB910 would work better? or for whom?

Sorry OP.. i seem to be highjacking your thread

What I just wrote...no. But I have recommended the SB-700 for some time now. It's just a great speed light. It will do the job admirably. Trust me on this. :)

Honestly, I really can't think of an instance where the 910 would do anything differently for you. Oh sure, it has a higher GN, and it is slightly more powerful...but it's a speed light, not a studio strobe. I mean...why spend the extra money when you don't have to?

As I stated earlier, there are many reasons why someone would get a 910 over a 700. One of those reasons is snob appeal. :) It's bigger, it has a higher GN (whoop dee do!) It's more expensive, if money is no object, so your photo friends won't think badly of you ;)...I could go on and on. I know a few news paper photographers that have gone from the 910 to the 700. What does that tell you!
Seriously.......you WILL enjoy using the 700. It's THAT good of a flash.
 

WayneF

Senior Member
If i may, what would be the situations that the SB910 would work better? or for whom?

In the Nikon way, the higher price model has more features, or rather, fewer features are stripped. Those that come to mind are:

SB-910 has a little more power, GN 111.5 vs GN 91.9 (DX mode, ISO 100, 24mm zoom). If you assume 10 feet to compare, this is f/11.1 vs f/9.1, which is near 2/3 stop more. Not that much, but approaching double power, and significant when bounce needs it.

SB-910 accepts the accessory power battery pack, very important for wedding/event photographers shooting hundreds of shots all day. IMO, not important for more normal use.

There are little things, SB-910 has menus to select TTL or TTL BL, SB-700 just says TTL, which always does TTL BL. i.e., SB-910 has a TTL override like the previous models.
But in that same way, the camera internal flash and the SB-400 and the Commander do only TTL BL too (leaving out mention of Spot Metering).

SB-910 Commander allows each group to be a different flash mode (TTL or Manual), but SB-700 menu requires all groups be the same mode. This would rarely ever matter for routine normal use of two flashes (main and fill, etc, either TTL or Manual), but is problem if using TTL, but a third group is wanted for hair light or background light, which TTL is not suitable for.
 
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fotojack

Senior Member
In the Nikon way, the higher price model has more features, or rather, fewer features are stripped. Those that come to mind are:

SB-910 has a little more power, GN 111.5 DX vs GN 91.9 (ISO 100, 24mm zoom). If you assume 10 feet to compare, this is f/11.1 vs f/9.1, which is near 2/3 stop more. Not that much, but significant when bounce needs it.

SB-910 accepts the accessory power pack, very important for wedding/event photographers shooting hundreds of shots all day. Not important for more normal use.

There are little things, SB-910 has menus to select TTL or TTL BL, SB-700 just says TTL, which always does TTL BL. i.e., SB-910 has a TTL override like the previous models.

SB-910 Commander allows each group to be a different flash mode (TTL or Manual), but SB-700 menu requires all groups be the same mode.

Wayne, you're absolutely right on all counts. The key phrase you use is my main point.....little things. :) For a full on pro photographer that makes his living with his camera, and money is no object, sure....get the 910. It has all the "little" extras that the average consumer doesn't really need. Even an avid semi pro enthusiast might go the 910 route. Again, for those "little" extras that are what makes the 910 different.
But for the OP....nah. Not worth the extra money, IMHO.
I must emphasize here, that the opinions I express are based solely on MY experiences with flash units, former and present. and the experiences of photography friends that I deal with and their use of speed lights.
 

fotojack

Senior Member
Actually, Whitelight, the person you should be talking to about speed lights is indeed WayneF. He has far more experience than I do in this area. He can talk circles around me when it comes to those things! lol :)
 
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