Nikonites overloaded with moderators.

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I just read a post from an australian saying he thought the moderators were over officious ( well he put it stronger than that)
Well I do agree this is an american site for the main and in general american sites are so so squeeky clean dont say boo, be forcefull or disagree or you are off.

I also note that some threads the posts are 60% from moderators and super moderators ...why do they have to stick there nose into everything.?? Why dont they shut up and let the ordinary member have his say?

In a good site the moderators contribute in one name and moderate in another as a group "the moderators"

The biggest site in the world with 36,000 members "boatdesign.net" has no visible moderators and no one reading every post ....if there is a problem you push the button "bring to attention of moderator" and its sorted if neccessary .

Now thats the way it should be run.
 

Eduard

Super Mod
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I'm a supermod but don't post a lot unless a thread strikes my interest like the recent jpeg/raw thread. Please don't forget that I'm an enthusiast just like you. None of us are getting paid, we're here to have fun. I dare say that on most sites, mods are chosen because they ARE active.

I won't comment about the squeaky clean observation except to point out that the site owner has decided that is how he'd like it run and I'd guess that the US laws might also influence that direction. Your and my continued use of the site indicates our implied consent to follow the guidelines.
 

Rexer John

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I also note that some threads the posts are 60% from moderators and super moderators ...why do they have to stick there nose into everything.?? Why dont they shut up and let the ordinary member have his say?

I was an admin on a motorbike forum that I started with some friends, ZRXOC. I still go on the forum but these days I'm a regular member with no duties through my own choice.

Moderators are regular members like you and me so why shouldn't they post.
They have to look after the forum and often get little or no respect for what they do.

It's like they're running a free hotel, putting time and effort in for no reward and then being told they should just shut up and clean your room, put new sheets on your bed, vacuum up and then get the hell out, so you can enjoy the room without them under your feet and in your way.

Then anyone who disagrees with how they run the hotel get called nazis, example here (EDIT: not saying that's what you are saying) for running it in a way that suits most people most of the time. You can never suit everyone.

Maybe you can see why I don't run a forum anymore, it's much nicer to be the guest than the manager or workers.

I take my hat off to all who run forums like this.
They would deserve some respect if they were being paid, much more so for the fact they give their valuable time for free, for our benefit.

Thankyou from "a guest".
 
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WhiteLight

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I look at this as more of a community than just any regular forum.
I am a senior member in a lot of forums (xda, mac forums, techguy, etc)& i see what you mean about moderators being 'off side'.
It just gives one impression - that the mods are overlords who are present just to swing the axe.
I am glad that THAT impression is absent here.
I think the people here basically enjoy photography & the formation of a forum and association of rules are a necessity than being the main purpose.
The passion of photography transcends all else.. at least it should
 
All good comments but when a person posts and is designateed "super moderator" that gives what they say more weight in the eyes of a new /inexperienced Nikon owner and this may not be true ..one mod says he is an enthusiast......Why dont they just post without the title moderator and be the same as the rest of us? Why the uniform and gun.?
why dont they use a consealed weapon to do it in US speak..?
 

Rexer John

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Because they are wrong whatever they do.

Out in the open = Heavy handed or threatening.
Concealed = Devious and dishonest.

I'm a noob and honestly never noticed all these moderators, I couldn't name the ones I have seen.
Makes no difference to me who they are.

On Eduards info at the side of each post it says Super Moderator.
Never noticed before, it is't exactly a bells and whistles title.
Almost concealed, sneaky in my opinion ;)
 

Eduard

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The reason I'm a mod is that I was on the site very early. I am very experienced with computers and jdeg asked if I would mod that forum since I was active in it. I also volunteered to mod the D300 forum and asked to create the Mirrorless forum when I purchased a V1. I've tried to guide the conversations by adding value but never tried to be heavy handed. I think that is the same for the rest of the mods. The other mods spend serious time here and deserve compliments not criticism in my opinion.

Don't take this wrong, but if you don't like the approach being taken here, maybe it isn't the place for you.
 
And so many locked posts its unheard of on other forums.....its also a cultural problem ...austalians and UK tell it like it is not covered in butterflys
 

Eduard

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IMHO it appears that you want to instigate rather than contribute. Once again, if the "culture" doesn't fit, feel free to leave or start your own site.
 

RockyNH_RIP

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I also note that some threads the posts are 60% from moderators and super moderators ...why do they have to stick there nose into everything.?? Why dont they shut up and let the ordinary member have his say?


Now thats the way it should be run.

Just a couple comments... I disagree with the 60% by moderators, possibly in a specific thread yes... but many such as Ted, Grandpa, Marilynne, Kim, Laura and others post very regular... The moderators tend to post as Members because
A. The topic interests them..
B. A regular member needs some help...

You indicate that this forum is NOT how it should be run.. this is not the first time you have indicated this. I respectfully suggest you ..
1. If not happy here
2. If not liking how this place is run..

Please consider going somewhere else where we will all likely be happier.

Pat in NH
 

Dave_W

The Dude
And so many locked posts its unheard of on other forums.....its also a cultural problem ...austalians and UK tell it like it is not covered in butterflys

You are "free" to tell it like it is, that was never the case. You are free to say "I don't like this because..." or "I would do it like this..." or even "I don't think that works because...", interactions that are more than welcomed here. What is not welcomed here is "that's crap", "only an idiot would do that" or "you run this place like a Nazi". To resort to this kind of language shows a clear lack of empathy for those that come here to learn and strive to be better photographers. A so-called "pro" like yourself could teach a newbie a lot of good techniques but even the best photographer in the world can't teach people with posts that belittle the reader. So if insisting our members maintain a civil tone with each other makes use Nazis, then so be it. And if you feel you can run a photography forum better than this one then I encourage you to leave us to our "Nazi" ways and start your own forum.
 

Eduard

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That would be instigate change would it ...???

To instigate change would be to contribute......

Let's be perfectly candid, instigating change is a good thing! That is how this site has grown and evolved! I literally work all over the world, have lived on three continents and consider myself pretty culturally sensitive and aware. Your approach, which I acknowledge might be a cultural thing, IMHO comes off as attacking. It seems to be a constant across multiple threads. I don't understand why that is. Looking back it appears to be a defensive response when others have questioned you. My personal expectation of a site like this is to gain personal knowledge through the friendly exchange of ideas. Possibly naively, I expect a working professional to lend credibility to the exchange. Just as you pointed out that mods have an appearance of extra "weight" to the exchange, so do professional photographers. If the enthusiasts among us piss you off then why are you here?
 

Marcel

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All good comments but when a person posts and is designateed "super moderator" that gives what they say more weight in the eyes of a new /inexperienced Nikon owner and this may not be true ..one mod says he is an enthusiast......Why dont they just post without the title moderator and be the same as the rest of us? Why the uniform and gun.?
why dont they use a consealed weapon to do it in US speak..?


This is only your own perspective. There is a good chance that not all the members see this forum through "your" eyes.
 

Puzz1e

Banned
I got banned for telling someone the truth when they asked for critique. This site is a joke. Do you mods not realise that correct critique actually helps people improve (even if it is harsh).

I got banned for saying someones watermark looked ugly. I then got an infraction for saying that we should embrace REAL criticism instead of just the horrible idea of "if you don't like it then don't post anything". How can someone possibly learn from an unbelievable rule like that?
 

Mike150

Senior Member
You know? I joined this forum a few years ago to "try" to learn how to take better pictures. I know that I will never be able to call myself a "Photographer" and will never be in the class as many of the professionals here.
Many of those "Professionals", many of whom are moderators have been able to give me good constructive criticism and because of that I have learned and grown in my abilities. That is why I liked this forum so much, and I come here every day.
Over time, however, I've seen more and more threads aimed at attacking one topic or another. Threads like that will eventually drive a good number of us away. Personally, I feel the moderators are doing a good job. It doesn't matter to me if there are 2 or 22.
Why can't we just get all the talk back to cameras and out of the politics.
 
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