sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Just wondering if you like it....seems a tad oversaturated to me.
Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting?
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
You know that you can modify any of these settings through the menu don't you. Find one you like and you can customize to your personal taste and save it for future use. Just turn down saturation one or two numbers down and you might love it.
You know that you can modify any of these settings through the menu don't you. Find one you like and you can customize to your personal taste and save it for future use. Just turn down saturation one or two numbers down and you might love it.
Horoscope Fish
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
When shooting JPG, what works best for me is Landscape; a little more saturation and contrast but not as intense as Vivid.
All those settings get the "Sharpness" bumped to +7 though.
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When shooting JPG, what works best for me is Landscape; a little more saturation and contrast but not as intense as Vivid.
All those settings get the "Sharpness" bumped to +7 though.
Actually, the Nikon software can apply the JPG settings to RAW files. But only the Nikon software does this, to my understanding.
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Fred Kingston
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
I always shoot RAW, never compressed, JPEG. The setting is meaningless..
I always shoot RAW, never compressed, JPEG. The setting is meaningless..
Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
I think so. But, still, in-camera settings do nothing to the RAW file and any settings applied by Nikon software to a RAW file are also reversible, whereas changes to JPEG are permanent. I think . . . . .
I think so. But, still, in-camera settings do nothing to the RAW file and any settings applied by Nikon software to a RAW file are also reversible, whereas changes to JPEG are permanent. I think . . . . .
Vixen
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Adobe RAW will apply those settings to NEF files.
Adobe RAW will apply those settings to NEF files.
Horoscope Fish
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
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Really? ACR will do that? This is news to me... I love me some Camera Raw.
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
If you shoot RAW then whatever setting you have it in should not make any difference at all. It will only affect the JPEG file if you have it set to shoot NEF/JPEG. I guess there are some folks who edit JPEG in LR but I don't see the point. If you are going to edit a file in Post Process, why not edit a pure RAW file instead and take advantage of a much wider range of tone and colors?
The only reasons I see to shoot JPEG are for folks who want to get tons more images on a card than with NEF, those that may not have or use software that edits/reads RAW/NEF files or those that just have no need for the highest quality image.
JPEG makes no sense otherwise. However small a a difference you think there is between NEF and JPEG there is enough difference to matter. With JPEG you start out with at least a slightly inferior image. JPEG images throw away data from a file. Data that can be used for a better end result.
But I bet this has been argued to death on this forum.
If you shoot RAW then whatever setting you have it in should not make any difference at all. It will only affect the JPEG file if you have it set to shoot NEF/JPEG. I guess there are some folks who edit JPEG in LR but I don't see the point. If you are going to edit a file in Post Process, why not edit a pure RAW file instead and take advantage of a much wider range of tone and colors?
The only reasons I see to shoot JPEG are for folks who want to get tons more images on a card than with NEF, those that may not have or use software that edits/reads RAW/NEF files or those that just have no need for the highest quality image.
JPEG makes no sense otherwise. However small a a difference you think there is between NEF and JPEG there is enough difference to matter. With JPEG you start out with at least a slightly inferior image. JPEG images throw away data from a file. Data that can be used for a better end result.
But I bet this has been argued to death on this forum.
Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Ok, let me try to clarify this Picture Control and RAW business. It is true the if you shoot RAW the image is stored in your SD card as the sensor recorded it, unmolested by the camera's processing engine. But it is not true that the image is not affect.
Here's a simple experiment to try. Set your camera's WB to Tungsten (the little light bulb.) Now go shoot a scene in the outdoors during daylight. Now import the RAW .NEF file into either LR or ACR - you WILL see a very bluish image because of the Tungsten WB you set. Why is that? Because the camera embeds the WB information in the NEF file metadata and when LR or ACR reads the NEF file, it sets its WB and Tint settings to correspond to the setting it reads. Yes, the RAW NEF file is still RAW and so you can easily restore to whatever you want by moving the sliders around. That's the same with the picture control settings of your camera when you shoot RAW. When you first import to LR or ACR you'll get an image that has all the original information as recorded by the sensor but LR/ACR will set their sliders to correspond to your camera setting as the initial starting point. In other words, the program (LR or ACR) will read the shooting information data (which is part of the raw image file) and will set the Lightroom "switches" for the WB, color control etc but they are all "soft" switch and the raw file data are not changed. No information is lost but upon first inspection, you'll see the image as presented by the camera's picture control setting you chose. So, if you really want to start uncommitted, set your picture control to NEUTRAL.
Note however, when you go peeking at the image on the LCD, the camera converts it into JPG for your viewing pleasure so you are seeing your camera's jpg rendition of your RAW imaged. By setting picture control to "Neutral" your LCD preview will look more or less like the image you think you captured! Also, set your LCD screen's brightness to 1 or 2 clicks to the dark side ("-" rather than "+") to get a more or less closer rendition of what you will get (and save battery.) But never use the LCD preview to evaluate how well your image is exposed - use the histogram.
Hope that makes sense!
Ok, let me try to clarify this Picture Control and RAW business. It is true the if you shoot RAW the image is stored in your SD card as the sensor recorded it, unmolested by the camera's processing engine. But it is not true that the image is not affect.
Here's a simple experiment to try. Set your camera's WB to Tungsten (the little light bulb.) Now go shoot a scene in the outdoors during daylight. Now import the RAW .NEF file into either LR or ACR - you WILL see a very bluish image because of the Tungsten WB you set. Why is that? Because the camera embeds the WB information in the NEF file metadata and when LR or ACR reads the NEF file, it sets its WB and Tint settings to correspond to the setting it reads. Yes, the RAW NEF file is still RAW and so you can easily restore to whatever you want by moving the sliders around. That's the same with the picture control settings of your camera when you shoot RAW. When you first import to LR or ACR you'll get an image that has all the original information as recorded by the sensor but LR/ACR will set their sliders to correspond to your camera setting as the initial starting point. In other words, the program (LR or ACR) will read the shooting information data (which is part of the raw image file) and will set the Lightroom "switches" for the WB, color control etc but they are all "soft" switch and the raw file data are not changed. No information is lost but upon first inspection, you'll see the image as presented by the camera's picture control setting you chose. So, if you really want to start uncommitted, set your picture control to NEUTRAL.
Note however, when you go peeking at the image on the LCD, the camera converts it into JPG for your viewing pleasure so you are seeing your camera's jpg rendition of your RAW imaged. By setting picture control to "Neutral" your LCD preview will look more or less like the image you think you captured! Also, set your LCD screen's brightness to 1 or 2 clicks to the dark side ("-" rather than "+") to get a more or less closer rendition of what you will get (and save battery.) But never use the LCD preview to evaluate how well your image is exposed - use the histogram.
Hope that makes sense!
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Yes....I do have a custom setup....but have not tried the vivid but one time and it was very colorful but oversaturated.
Yes....I do have a custom setup....but have not tried the vivid but one time and it was very colorful but oversaturated.
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
I guess I never realized that or thought about it but it makes sense....guess I will be shooting in RAW more than not. now that I have Lightroom.
I guess I never realized that or thought about it but it makes sense....guess I will be shooting in RAW more than not. now that I have Lightroom.
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Man....what a blue sky!
Man....what a blue sky!
Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Just because a photo was taken with the VIVID option doesn't mean it can't be toned down in post-processing.
Any, and all, adjustments you make, in-camera, or post-processing, is your interpetation of the image.
The final result is your creation, no matter how you got there.
Just because a photo was taken with the VIVID option doesn't mean it can't be toned down in post-processing.
Any, and all, adjustments you make, in-camera, or post-processing, is your interpetation of the image.
The final result is your creation, no matter how you got there.
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tip.....I'll try landscape with the sharpness boosted!
I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tip.....I'll try landscape with the sharpness boosted!
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Re: Has anyone tried the Vivid Setting/
Now that I have 2 - 32 gb cards in my slots, I have plenty of room to shoot RAW. I plan on doing just that. I might occasionally try out some of the effects modes though just for kicks.
Now that I have 2 - 32 gb cards in my slots, I have plenty of room to shoot RAW. I plan on doing just that. I might occasionally try out some of the effects modes though just for kicks.